That's not a Tia! (moonfire spoilers)

[LineageRazor]

They MAY have fixed this issue with the Tuesday update. I'm guessing most of the folks in this thread did the quest before the update? I did not - and when I did the quest the boy wanted to prove himself so that he could go on an adventurer's journey, not so that he could care for his family.

The stuff about "being without a father" was still there, but I didn't really see anything in the dialog that pointed toward him trying to become the breadwinner. His sister is upset because she doesn't want him to leave, true - but she's young enough that she might not understand (or, at least, not buy into) the philosophy that males need to leave when they come of age (especially when it applies to her precious big brother).

A Tia leaving the family and going on an adventurer's journey fits right in with the lore, I think.

[alimdia]

They MAY have fixed this issue with the Tuesday update. I'm guessing most of the folks in this thread did the quest before the update? I did not - and when I did the quest the boy wanted to prove himself so that he could go on an adventurer's journey, not so that he could care for his family.

The stuff about "being without a father" was still there, but I didn't really see anything in the dialog that pointed toward him trying to become the breadwinner. His sister is upset because she doesn't want him to leave, true - but she's young enough that she might not understand (or, at least, not buy into) the philosophy that males need to leave when they come of age (especially when it applies to her precious big brother).

A Tia leaving the family and going on an adventurer's journey fits right in with the lore, I think.

I started the quest 10 seconds after it became available, it was always about going on an adventure, it never mentioned wanting to start a new tribe or wanting to become a Nuhn.

Chances are tribes aren't a thing in big cities, and when daddy is out of the picture it doens't mean son is forced to become a Nuhn when they are living in a city, so a Tia without a living father could be possible (or maybe the father is alive and went to buy milk and cigarettes).

[Eloah]

Chances are tribes aren't a thing in big cities, and when daddy is out of the picture it doens't mean son is forced to become a Nuhn when they are living in a city, so a Tia without a living father could be possible (or maybe the father is alive and went to buy milk and cigarettes).

Don't get me wrong, but it's responses similar to this that make me wonder how many people know what a Nunh actually is.

Nunh =/= Leader of the Tribe. A Nunh is simple the breeding Male, that's it. Basically a Nunh is just good in the sack, lol. But, seriously, that's all the terms mean, breeding male or non-breeding male. Granted since a Nunh is often considered the strongest at that time, they might be the leader. But, leading a tribe takes more than just the ability to make babies. I believe the current Nunh of the U tribe is not their leader, dont quote me though.

[Niwashi]

They MAY have fixed this issue with the Tuesday update. I'm guessing most of the folks in this thread did the quest before the update? I did not - and when I did the quest the boy wanted to prove himself so that he could go on an adventurer's journey, not so that he could care for his family.

The stuff about "being without a father" was still there, but I didn't really see anything in the dialog that pointed toward him trying to become the breadwinner.

I don't know whether it changed or not, but I did the quest after that update, and the issue was there. After the update, the relevant portion of dialog is this part:

But I am serious about becoming an adventurer! You see, <name>, we don't have a father, so I help our mother look after Majha. I realized that I needed to become a man, to become strong enough to support my family. I just didn't know how.

But when I came to the Moonfire Faire a few years ago, and saw the Cascadiers drive off those dreadful Bombards, I discovered my calling in life—to become an adventurer! If I were as brave as the heroes of the Adventurers' Guild, I could protect my family from harm. I could provide for them.

So, he wants to protect his family and provide for them because his father isn't there to do so. It sounds like a nuclear family consisting of his mother, himself, and his sister, but no longer a father so he needs to substitute for that role. That doesn't sound like a Sunseeker tribe.

[Eloah]

So, he wants to protect his family and provide for them because his father isn't there to do so. It sounds like a nuclear family consisting of his mother, himself, and his sister, but no longer a father so he needs to substitute for that role. That doesn't sound like a Sunseeker tribe.

Not sure that's a fair assessment. We don't know how each tribe operates from one another. The only constant we do know is their Patriarchal Society. From what little information we can gleam, from the small bits of info spread throughout the game, the tribes appear to be individually family oriented but collectively tribe oriented. Meaning that family units are not uncommon. Basically, the father(nunh) has multiple families that are all his, but each "wife" only has one of their own. The boy in the quest chain is only referring to his specific family.