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  1. #16961
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    AxHell's Avatar
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    Axhell Anchorvi
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    Zodiark
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
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    I guess you could say it was a nice....re-cover-y haha (pls no bully)
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  2. #16962
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    Starvi's Avatar
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    Character
    Starvald Demelain
    World
    Twintania
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 80
    lol I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry. Just had duty roulette Stone Vigil with a bunch of newbies. They did really well...the tank was pretty good, the dps too.

    We make it to Isgebin and have him down to 14% or so when I type "LB" into the chat. Nothing happens but shortly after one of the dps aks "LB?". So I type "limit break" in case he doesn't know the abbreviation....after typing I see that the two LB bars are empty but Isgebin is still alive and doesn't seem to have any dent in his remaining HP....weird!
    We kill him, I say thank you and leave and scroll through the battle chat only to find that the tank decided to use the LB while I was trying to get one of the dps to use it.

    I guess that's one way of dealing with my request!
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  3. #16963
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    TheMightyMollusk's Avatar
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    Character
    Iyami Galvayra
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    First it was samurai, now it's monks that don't use AoE. Had a run through Doma Castle that took forever. Included a wipe on the second boss, and a near wipe on the spider mech before the final boss. I raised the tank, died, and the healer took a while to stabilize the tank before picking me up. (The monk died early in the pull. We, ah, sorta let him sleep for most of it, he wasn't doing much anyway.) At least Grynewaht went smooth.
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  4. #16964
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    Kakiko's Avatar
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    Character
    Halo Kitty
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    Party Finder stories.

    Trying to clear O5s for some people who haven't cleared it. We put up a party finder saying that it's a learning party. I've cleared it, and one other person in our initial group has as well. We fill up quickly enough and give a run down of the mechanics. We explain the WAR skip and WAR says they'll try but they've never done it before. I explain that I've cleared but I am learning the fight on AST so my apologies for messing up. It's a learning party for a reason. Unfortunately, WAR couldn't hold aggro and didn't understand how to avoid the Remorse ghost. We wipe. We explain again which skill to use to mitigate that. He again gets knocked off. We survive though BLM and MNK keep pulling aggro off WAR and BLM keeps dying because of it. That party eventually falls apart and we look for new members.

    We get a WHM with several pieces of Diamond gear. I explain I'm new to healing this fight, but I've cleared on DPS. We explain what the WAR skip is and when it happens. I'm doing my best to keep people healed up, keep my shields going, keep my dot on the train. WHM co-heal gets prey and takes it allllll the way to the back. WAR does not take his far enough to the side. I put down Earthly Star and pop Collective Unconsciousness, threw Aspected Helios up but we all wiped anyway. Try again. I ask if healers could take it just over half-way back and we explain to the WAR how far he has to take his over to the side, and that he has to run quickly over to stack with everyone else. We did manage to survive, but I clipped sprint and died in the process because I was too slow to get back. My bad. We make it to adds, survive through that, kill the chimney and remind everyone "only the WAR gets the ghost."

    Then watch the WHM, the BLM, and another DPS get their ghosts. We die. Okay. We re-explain that during a War skip, only the war gets the ghost, the rest of us avoid ghosts. Get an "okay" in reply. Try it again. Things are going not terribly, deaths here and there, WAR still can't avoid being blown off, asks how. DRG is saying the same thing (didn't know about Arm's Length apparently?). We make it to chimney, remind of the skip, WHM and BLM gets a ghost. We wipe. Try again. Start up, things okay, finally catch the WAR running halfway back the train to get to a box for Remorse. Someone manages to to tell them they don't have to do that. BLM is still ripping aggro right off the WAR. Get to the chimney, remind of the skip, WAR goes in - WHM goes in - BLM goes in. We die

    We re-explain how the skip works. WHM then goes "Ooohh! Ohh ok."

    Re-explain again. Try again. Get to that part again (WAR can now avoid knockbacks, yay), WAR goes in - WHM goes in - BLM goes in, we die.

    I leave. I ask the WHM "no offense, but how did you get so many Diamond pieces if you don't understand that you don't get the ghost during the WAR skip?"

    They said that they did do the skip but it wasn't working. I said that it does work, but they were continually going into a ghost and that was what was killing us. No one gets a ghost but the WAR. We have asked repeatedly that you do not get a ghost and you repeatedly do. WHM said it's b.s. they're getting "lectured" when they're "semi solo healing" and doing everything correct. They leave.

    Tried again Wednesday night before I had to go to work. Instead of a learning party, went as a farm. I went on BLM because I didn't feel like trying to heal it. I've cleared on BLM. Friend went on MNK because he didn't want to tank. We get two ASTs. They seem okay. First run goes amazingly and we one-shot it. I do top DPS (in the 5ks) and MNK is just behind. I had no deaths the whole fight. I actually improved my log because of that run.

    Second run went horribly. Same group, nothing changed, but people just fell to pieces. At one point during the first Remorse, I popped Surecast, I saw it on my buffs, it had not timed out, but I got blown off the train. One AST gets blown off the train. I get raised up, healers are slow to top me off. We keep going. At another point, everyone is grouped on the left side of the train when we get targetted with the green aoes. I also got a spotlight. I was trying to move out of the way of all the overlapping aoes and ended up getting hugged by the ghost. One AST also dies. The next time, I was tethered to a ghost. I move into a spotlight with the ghost right behind me. Both of us are in the spotlight. Spotlight goes off, I didn't move totally out of it before that and took damage from it - ghost did NOT disappear. No idea why. I 100% know the ghost was in the light. Got hugged with less than half-health, came out and got hit with the train ramming us, died. Got raised. Healer put Aspected Benefic on me even though i was sitting at less than 3k hp. No top ups. Healer then dies to something. Got targetted with green aoe just before Head On, run towards the back but die to the aoe marker. Healer leaves me dead for +3-1/2 minutes. MNK friend also dies, one AST is totally out of mana, RDM is not raising anyone (one tank was also dead), other AST is not raising anyone. Finally raises Monk, monk has less than 3k hp, no top ups. Puts Aspected Benefic on them and goes back to spamming Malefic. RDM keeps casting Jolt - Veraero. We wipe. Healer also died to another Remorse ghost. Died to prey marker (not being stacked close enough with us). They also got block off during the straight line push back.

    This was the result after we left the instance, the only thing anyone in the party said:


    The past 2 runs have made me remember why I hate Savage and why I hate PUGs.

    I did really well the first run. I know I did because it was the first time I hadn't died AT ALL in the fight, I did better DPS in there than I had any other time I went in there, and I increased my percentile. The salty healer, according to the logs, has only had 2 clears of it and those 2 clears were on August 15. Dunno, maybe she's cleared it previously and no one uploaded or anything. Her percentile is low (single digits) for both player heal and player damage.

    Just..frustrates me
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    Last edited by Kakiko; 08-16-2018 at 07:01 PM.
    Canadian, eh!
    "When someone told me I live in a fantasy land, I nearly fell off my unicorn"

  5. #16965
    Player
    Lubu_Mykono's Avatar
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    Radz-At-Han
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    Character
    Lubu Mykono
    World
    Phantom
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Guessing that they were there together. You get that a lot on this server.
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  6. #16966
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    KittyLilly's Avatar
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    Lilly Lunatenshi
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kakiko View Post
    They said that they did do the skip but it wasn't working. I said that it does work, but they were continually going into a ghost and that was what was killing us. No one gets a ghost but the WAR.
    I was in the same situation one time. We were doing the WAR strat but some other people were going into the ghosts. But our WAR did make it and the people outside didnt die. So i dont think you died because of the people who were going in. The WAR just didnt make it in time.
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  7. #16967
    Player
    Kakiko's Avatar
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    Halo Kitty
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by KittyLilly View Post
    I was in the same situation one time. We were doing the WAR strat but some other people were going into the ghosts. But our WAR did make it and the people outside didnt die. So i dont think you died because of the people who were going in. The WAR just didnt make it in time.
    The WAR was out every time we died. He went in, killed the ghost, came out. WHM and BLM were still inside. We died. Sorry, failed to mention that in my post lol
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    Canadian, eh!
    "When someone told me I live in a fantasy land, I nearly fell off my unicorn"

  8. #16968
    Player
    KittyLilly's Avatar
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    Lilly Lunatenshi
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kakiko View Post
    The WAR was out every time we died. He went in, killed the ghost, came out. WHM and BLM were still inside. We died. Sorry, failed to mention that in my post lol
    Dont worry. I did understand it this way. The debuff who kills the people outside did disappear after the WAR killed his ghost. We did continue fight the boss while the other people inside the ghosts still needed to kill their ghosts. Maybe we were just lucky.
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  9. #16969
    Player
    Kakiko's Avatar
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    Halo Kitty
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    Midgardsormr
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by KittyLilly View Post
    Dont worry. I did understand it this way. The debuff who kills the people outside did disappear after the WAR killed his ghost. We did continue fight the boss while the other people inside the ghosts still needed to kill their ghosts. Maybe we were just lucky.
    Maybe. The only time I know to have failed the skip is when the war couldn't kill the ghost in time and we did. So maybe he was slow and it didn't matter that the other 2 were with their ghosts. I dunno. It was just.. failtastic. "Please don't get a ghost" (repeatedly gets ghost) lol
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    Canadian, eh!
    "When someone told me I live in a fantasy land, I nearly fell off my unicorn"

  10. #16970
    Player
    Vidu's Avatar
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    Vidu Moriquendi
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    I need to make a confession and offer an apology for the poor people who got my scholar for Rathalos NM yesterday. Or didnt, actually.
    I'm decorating a friends house atm and was 10 tomestones short from crafting the kitchen hanger, so I decided to do a quick trials without thinking about how that could put me into Rathalos NM - thats obviously not the problem though, I'm sure the fight is very doable! I havent done the fight yet, though - which by itself wouldnt be a problem either.
    Me doing it by myself was the issue here, because I really wanted to run it "blind" with my boyfriend, who wasnt present. (We did the quest laste week but stop right before the fight, because it was getting late)

    So... I killed the game and went to do other stuff for half an hour. Not proud of that and very sorry for the group I totally forgot that you dont need to have stuff cleared anymore to get it for the roulette >.<
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