PSA/ALERT: Houses are getting demolished when they shouldn't. SE needs to see this!

[Luxyn]

There appears to be more stories that have come forward on the Reddit, going to repost the link again so those of you who haven't can read through:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ums_about_the/

To the people who have now posted in this thread saying it has happened to them, please, I beg you, show any evidence you can, fill out bug reports. We need as much evidence of this as possible. If this bug isn't true all the better, but not knowing for sure and the possibility of it being real is too saddening to me.

[Luxyn]

Yeah, please keep the thread civil guys. Arguing isn't going to contribute to in here. I understand that this issue is making people touchy, we just need to get as much information on this as possible. =/

[Cylla]

This is the one time will have to agree, we can do without the arguments and dislikes for whoever. Set it aside and leave it for another day. This is far more serious of a matter if this it a bug that actually happening or something else. We want SE attention on this and not having them go through a bunch of posts of people arguing with each other.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

This is the one time will have to agree, we can do without the arguments and dislikes for whoever. Set it aside and leave it for another day. This is far more serious of matter on if this is a bug that actually happening or something else. We want SE attention on this and not having them go through a bunch of posts of people arguing with each other.

We need screenshots and chat logs from support. Hearsay from reddit unfortunately is not going to be enough.

If the bug was this big, it should have blown up by now, and yet, there's so few people reporting issues.

I haven't seen any talk of this on Mateus, either in shout or in Novice Network. I would have expected some mention of it.

[Sarevok_Thordin]

My neighbour returned to their house gone too, said they never went away for that long. Had at least 2 weeks before auto-demolish.

[Galaktica]

They should just remove the auto-demolition from the game entirely and come up with some other solution. I hate to say it, but this immersion excuse has never struck me as a good enough reason not to scrap the idea of wards and give everyone access to their own personal house. This system should never have gone live if everyone couldn't participate, and they still don't have enough houses to cover the entirety of the playerbase. This bug just adds insult to injury - now it's not even safe to buy a house as a regular player because not only will you lose it if you take a break from the game, but you might lose it anyway because SE doesn't test things before releasing them.

I'm sorry folks are losing their houses. I'm not sorry that this system is crumbling underneath its own weight.

Amen.

I'm convinced the people who actually care about immersion are just very, very vocal minority. I've had my house since late last year I think and I've never seen more than 3-4 people in there at any given time. And they weren't even together, just looked like random people going about their business. Now here's where someone replies "my ward is packed all the time and me and my friends host parties 24/7!" Okay, sure, even I chose to believe that, you're still a minority. Start a new character on any server and pick any ward and I guarantee 99% of them will be ghost towns with the occasional straggler or two tending to their garden.

Like I've said before, if they're so hellbent on the idea of wards, then fine keep them around, but then offer up instanced housing for everyone else. I'm going to go out on a limb and say most people who want a house don't really care one way or the other if anyone besides their friends ever see it. They just want their own little slice of Eorzea to decorate. Besides, with instanced housing, the type of houses you can have is pretty much infinite. Elder Scrolls Online and Rift have castles, forests, ships, caves, a bunch of other places to decorate. The benefits of instanced housing heavily outweigh the downsides. Then again, if "Raubahn-gate" (i.e. Stormblood launch.) is any indication, I wouldn't be surprised if SE was too cheap to spring for the extra servers possibly needed for instanced housing.

I genuinely don't even understand why people are vehemently against instanced housing other than needing validation because they're one of the select few players to own a house. Who cares about your stupid wards, just let other players have fun. And ffs, don't come at me with the "if someone really cared about owning a home, they would have one by now!" because that's obviously not true judging by the...ya know...people who want houses and still don't have one. There's a lot of factors that go into being able to buy a house and if you're on a populated server, the biggest factor is luck.

I own a house and I too am glad this system is under fire again. Good, it deserves to be. The way housing was implemented is a joke by any other MMORPG standards.

[Luna-M]

Looks like all my houses is still around and no timer ticking. Can't say i see more open plots in my ward either and all friends seem be safe as well /phew

[Elamys]

There's one screenshot on Reddit of a response from a GM, but it's extremely generalized and makes it sound as if the person who entered was a tenant, not an owner. However, the person who posted talks like they're the owner and I feel like they'd know whether or not that was the case.



https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...eason/e45xoiw/

That's the comment thread with SE_Kahuna.

[Luxyn]

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Please direct them to this thread, and please tell them to file a bug report.

[Elamys]

Please direct them to this thread, and please tell them to file a bug report.

The player who posted that on reddit has been banned from the official forums, incidentally highlighting another enormous problem with their moderation of this place. I like how the response tells him to post on the forums despite his ban, making it very clear that the response was copy and paste work.