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  1. #131
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    Souljacker's Avatar
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    Last Hero
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    They should just remove the auto-demolition from the game entirely and come up with some other solution. I hate to say it, but this immersion excuse has never struck me as a good enough reason not to scrap the idea of wards and give everyone access to their own personal house. This system should never have gone live if everyone couldn't participate, and they still don't have enough houses to cover the entirety of the playerbase. This bug just adds insult to injury - now it's not even safe to buy a house as a regular player because not only will you lose it if you take a break from the game, but you might lose it anyway because SE doesn't test things before releasing them.

    I'm sorry folks are losing their houses. I'm not sorry that this system is crumbling underneath its own weight.
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  2. #132
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    Song Sparrow
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aida_Enna View Post
    Actually, incredibly, I think Momo might be correct. I just checked with the person who I share an estate with and they said that they did reset their time around the time I was recording the video. Based on that information, I'm going to have to assume that this was one holy hell of a coincidence, and probably not the bug that people have been having. I've deleted that discord message I posted and will be editing my post to reflect this. Sorry about the mishap, everyone! >_<
    I mean, I wouldn't feel too horribly bad. The simpler explanation (it was a bug in the display of the list) is almost always more likely to be correct than the weirder one (someone managed to sneak in and reset the timer while you were on the loading screen).

    Sorry for getting a little heated <.< I still think people should be wary though. There's still enough people talking about it happening to them that I find it hard to believe it's all just people making mistakes, coincidences, or not understanding. Especially for people that have a house on a high pop server so are likely very familiar with all the ins and outs of the housing system.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Because evidence to the contrary, the problem has been found. I'm all for fixing peoples houses being demo'd by a bug, but evidence is needed. Speculation helps no one and causes unwarranted panic. I also have a house, an FC house, and several friends with houses. I would hate to lose any of them. I'm just not panicking over it.

    I do wonder why people like to go after me for being logical about things. I had a mail bug for 3 years. I submitted 2 bug reports. The 2nd one got my issue resolved.
    I'm a little frustrated with SE right now because I'm having a bug where items are disappearing (it's now 4 total items) after being crafted - they're not being placed in my bag. I've been told to go here, go there, fill out this bug report, now fill this out again, etc. I can't seem to get any help. A lot of people can't. And when it's something as touchy as a house, everyone's going to be upset. Especially when what happened was so incredibly unlikely.
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    cerise leclaire
    (bad omnicrafter & terrible astrologian)

  3. #133
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    ExKage's Avatar
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    Heixin Xiaoshuita
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    Going to invoke Occam's Razor here.
    And what's that simplest explanation for that person?

    And what's the explanation for iShirozaki on reddit who has proof they were in their house on July 15 but lost their house last week?
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  4. #134
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    Lunie Khit
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    Just adding this bit for future reference and so we get more accurate reports of this bug: I have had to reset a house's demolition timer in the past, and I distinctly remember there being a message that pops up on the screen as soon as you enter the house saying "demolition timer has been reset".
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  5. #135
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    Aya Hamada
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 74
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Because evidence to the contrary, the problem has been found. I'm all for fixing peoples houses being demo'd by a bug, but evidence is needed. Speculation helps no one and causes unwarranted panic. I also have a house, an FC house, and several friends with houses. I would hate to lose any of them. I'm just not panicking over it.

    I do wonder why people like to go after me for being logical about things. I had a mail bug for 3 years. I submitted 2 bug reports. The 2nd one got my issue resolved.

    I work on servers on a daily basis. I've seen many weird things happen.
    and this?:
    Quote Originally Posted by nranola View Post
    Sharing this Discord message that someone posted in the reddit thread comments, apparently from one of the affected players:

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  6. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by InkstainedGwyn View Post
    1) People who were previously inside their house the day before are finding it demo'd.
    2) People are finding that the "demo is imminent" timer isn't always going away when they step inside.
    3) As for "old email addresses", I have the same email and I check it every day, and when I let a previous house demo I only got one email, the "three-day" warning, one day before it occurred. Nothing went to spam, nothing was in trash. That's not my fault, that's a fault on the auto-message system.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mysteltain View Post
    Huh, this would explain why entering my personal house yesterday gave me the "Auto-Demolition Canceled" message yesterday. I had been in my house at least two weeks prior, so it was rather strange to see that.
    Someone getting the message that it is canceled despite being in a period wherein they shouldn't be getting a timer in the first place.
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  7. #137
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamada View Post
    and this?:
    That person is literally quoted in my post as saying that he was mistaken.

    Did you even read this thread? He was posting here too, and said it was a mistake, and he has since deleted the post on discord because of it.
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  8. #138
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamada View Post
    and this?:
    Aida Enna just posted that the owner of the estate was most likely the one to have gotten rid of the timer. They've deleted the discord message.
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  9. #139
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExKage View Post
    Aida Enna just posted that the owner of the estate was most likely the one to have gotten rid of the timer. They've deleted the discord message.
    I see
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    That person is literally quoted in my post as saying that he was mistaken.

    Did you even read this thread? He was posting here too, and said it was a mistake, and he has since deleted the post on discord because of it.
    I am not here to keep track of who is who. I do not like your passive/aggressive comment of "Did you even read this thread? "
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  10. #140
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamada View Post
    I see


    I am not here to keep track of who is who. I do not like your passive/aggressive comment of "Did you even read this thread? "
    My post you quoted had the quote from the person you asked me about. If you had read my post, you wouldn't have responded with that question. I don't like being attacked over something that is literally in my post.

    If you are bringing up a specific issue, and then say i am not keeping track of who is who, while there is a post with that person saying the issue was resolved, it makes it hard to have a conversation, ya know?
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