PSA/ALERT: Houses are getting demolished when they shouldn't. SE needs to see this!

[nranola]

If I was in their shoes I would probably, as understandable (if true) he/she was furious about losing their house make same demand. iirc there been instances where SE have removed someone's house to give it back (something about person was scammed and had in-game proof).

Is this the instance you're talking about?

If so, they stated there that the GMs had to do a lot of leg work and get special permission "from the very top" in order to go through with the process, which was: 1) GM relinquishes the plot, 2) Player buys back the plot, 3) GM reimburses purchase price to the player. I don't know if GMs have the ability to buy a plot in place of a player... I haven't seen anyone report about a GM being able to do so yet. If they can't, then even if the GM was able to relinquish the plot, the affected player would then have to contend with the invisible plot timer before they can repurchase their plot.

Also that instance where the player was conned out of their house vs. someone losing the plot due to a bug, are two difference scenarios. On one side you have a situation where two people went into a 1:1 transaction knowing full well what one was getting and what one was losing going into it, which makes GM intervention more clear-cut; and on the other side you have one person losing their house to the system unfairly and potentially another innocent person who was just looking to buy/relocate to a new house, which makes things a bit more complicated.

Square Enix has their hands tied on this one. The only real solution is to fix whatever is causing the demolitions, which may be easier said than done... but in my opinion should absolutely be a high priority fix. Square Enix has been pushing out more and more housing-related items with each patch which means that they know that housing is important to a lot of players. This can be an absolute deal-breaker for a lot of folks. Why buy a house if it can just demolish by itself despite all your efforts to keep it standing, and not even having any recourse afterwards?

[Luna-M]

They will ignore it because it does not concern the jpn player base. The jpn player base has no auto demolitions right now so they won't get any reports from there.

When the demolitions get set in place on the japense centers in a few months and they might get reports from there only then i have hope of them fixing this

but seriously

STOP AUTO DEMOLITION ON ALL SERVERS AS LONG AS THIS BUG EXISTS

I don't think that's true at all. It's a old meme at this point that SE only cares about JP community.

Is this the instance you're talking about?

Yes, I believe so.

[SunAurel]

I don't think that's true at all. It's a old meme at this point that SE only cares about JP community.

They stopped housing demolition for the japanese data centers a few weeks back because there were some natural catastrophes affecting the islands again and it's still suspended. I remember a few threads popping up with 'NA/EU also have to fight with forest fires etc. right now why do we not get suspension of the auto demolition'

Here is the source: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...ffaceba8982dfc

and no I don't think it's a stretch to say that SE listens to its JPN homebase more than their international audience. After all they design content (like Eureka: Pagos) for the way the jpn audience played Anemos, which was miles different than we did with the FATE Train.

[Rymm]

They stopped housing demolition for the japanese data centers a few weeks back because there were some natural catastrophes affecting the islands again and it's still suspended. I remember a few threads popping up with 'NA/EU also have to fight with forest fires etc. right now why do we not get suspension of the auto demolition'

When they stop the auto-demo timer, they stop it for all datacenters at the same time. And they have stopped it for natural disasters in both Japan and NA.

[SunAurel]

When they stop the auto-demo timer, they stop it for all datacenters at the same time. And they have stopped it for natural disasters in both Japan and NA.

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...ffaceba8982dfc

Elemental, Gaia, and Mana only. Those are the Japanese Data Centers and it is still suspended. I would not be surprised if they somehow made an error in their coding and the other data centers were affected by this in some way. If that's the case and it does not count when we enter our hourses since July 31th then we will all lose our houses in a few weeks

[Rymm]

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...ffaceba8982dfc

Elemental, Gaia, and Mana only. Those are the Japanese Data Centers and it is still suspended. I would not be surprised if they somehow made an error in their coding and the other data centers were affected by this in some way

Hmm, wasn't even aware they had paused the demo timer again. I know when Japan had that big quake in 2016, they paused all the timers. And when the Gulf got slammed by those hurricanes earlier this year they paused it across all data centers again. This is only the what, 3rd time ever they paused? Maybe because the flooding is more localized they opted to only pause the timers in the areas most likely to be impacted.

it does not count when we enter our hourses since July 31th then we will all lose our houses in a few weeks

I took a break from the game in July. If that was the case then my house would already be vapor. (It's not.)

If this is a thing, it needs to be fixed asap. However, I haven't seen anything concerning it but hearsay and highly suspect reddit posts so forgive me if I don't jump into the whole "the sky is falling" routine right away.

[Canadane]

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...ffaceba8982dfc

Elemental, Gaia, and Mana only. Those are the Japanese Data Centers and it is still suspended. I would not be surprised if they somehow made an error in their coding and the other data centers were affected by this in some way. If that's the case and it does not count when we enter our hourses since July 31th then we will all lose our houses in a few weeks

I've seen a number of houses go up for sale this month alone.
Perhaps not absolute confirmation, but the idea the demolition timers are still ticking for Primal seems to be on.

[Wolftamer]

I don't think that's true at all. It's a old meme at this point that SE only cares about JP community.
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I dunno. JP gets a hurricane they shut down Auto Demolition within a few days. US gets hit hard by a few and it took over a month of the community begging for them to finally shut down the timer on the NA servers. I think there is still a certain bias.

[Louvain]

I dunno. JP gets a hurricane they shut down Auto Demolition within a few days. US gets hit hard by a few and it took over a month of the community begging for them to finally shut down the timer on the NA servers. I think there is still a certain bias.

It did not take over a month. It took only a few days for them to acknowledge it after I made the thread, and the week after they patched it in.
Edit; Yoshi-p's direct response to the thread, placed about 4 days after it was started; http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...32#post4402932

Ontopic;
The amount of "are you SURE it wasn't on the housing demo?" has been a repeated, annoying question. The people who make these kind of threads are very well aware, you would know if someone lost their house to timer demo and would not know it as the question would be phrased of "hey, haven't been on in a while and my house is gone!"

For those affected, I hope you get some sort of compensation. I'd be devastated if I lost my house. There have also been known issues about demo timer emails not going out properly, which has caused issues.

[Wolftamer]

It did not take over a month. It took only a few days for them to acknowledge it after I made the thread, and the week after they patched it in.
Edit; Yoshi-p's direct response to the thread, placed about 4 days after it was started; http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...32#post4402932

Ontopic;
The amount of "are you SURE it wasn't on the housing demo?" has been a repeated, annoying question. The people who make these kind of threads are very well aware, you would know if someone lost their house to timer demo and would not know it as the question would be phrased of "hey, haven't been on in a while and my house is gone!"

For those affected, I hope you get some sort of compensation. I'd be devastated if I lost my house. There have also been known issues about demo timer emails not going out properly, which has caused issues.

OK, so it took 15 days after Harvey hit to suspend demolition for the US (after petitions). The first suspension which was for the Kumamoto Earthquake was enacted 3 days after the Earthquake. Still a significant difference.