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  1. #16931
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    Dreamsoap's Avatar
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    Uldah
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    Jye Greene
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 60
    Is it common for people to get carried in the main scenario roulette? Last night one person was running to keep up but did absolutely nothing to contribute to battle. Then again today, same thing happened. : 0
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  2. #16932
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    Kakiko's Avatar
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    Character
    Halo Kitty
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    Haven't posted for a long while.
    Got WHM to 70. Been practicing with it. I don't mind it. I think I'm not terrible at it.
    Do a Tsuku farm with fc mates tonight. Get a co-heal who came in as AST, no biggie. They went Noct, perfect (I usually go AST-Noct in there). We clear. Coheal changes to WHM but I didn't realize until we were loaded in. No biggie, I guess. We clear again.

    First run, we get to Zenos:
    Coheal: Don't heal this part
    Me: *confused because there's a lot of aoe damage* O...kay
    One dps dies.
    Two dps dies.
    We nearly wipe.
    Coheal: whaaat? that's never happened before looool

    We clear, surprisingly:

    Coheal: Kiko do you main healer?
    Me: No, blm first, then AST. Why?
    Coheal: just watching you
    Me: ...ok

    So the next run went.. horribly. I died a bunch because I was getting tired and realizing that coheal was not healing much.
    RDM raises me every time.
    Two dps die, I get them up, I die, RDM raises me, my ogcd heals are on cool down, I'm mostly out of mana, coheal is still casting stone, a medica here or there, aero 2. I get raised by RDM unfortunately right into an aoe and get killed. RDM raises me, I get the fking stack marker on me, ogcds are still on cool down, coheal not healing me up, I die. Coheal continues to cast stone and aero 2. I have no mana, I die again because I'm trying to figure something out. A bunch of dps die. WHM coheal uses lb3. I try to keep everyone up, get turned around on positions and die. RDM raises me. Coheal keeps casting stone. One of the tanks die, the RDM dies. More dps die. Coheal keeps casting stone, casts medica, casts cure on herself a bunch, keeps casting stone over and over and over until she dies. We wipe. I leave b/c I'm pissed off.

    Coheal: why do u die so much kiko?

    Now, I 100% admit that I died a lot because of my own stupidity and inexperience as white mage in harder content. I've cleared the fight a bunch but I was getting confused and panicking. I accept that. But dude - she cast almost no heals. The odd Assize here, the odd medica there, Asylum once at Zenos and once during the final phase. She's in full 370 gear, including Diamond pieces. Numbers show that she was somehow doing more HPS than me but not by much. Her DPS was /much/ higher though (for obvious reasons). Check her logs, she's 96th percentile for WHM damage but... 11th percentile for Healing (wonder why).

    Now, I know I'm not a perfect white mage. I've only been 70 for a week. I'm getting used to the class, but up until this point I haven't had that much trouble. I clear the fight consistently with AST without trouble and I absolutely don't mind being given pointers if someone sees I'm doing something wrong (maybe they think that they shouldn't have to give pointers in Ex content? I suppose that's fair).

    Someone absolutely went on blacklist. "Do you main healer" and "just watching you" put me on edge and probably contributed to me messing up, as I was watching what she was doing thinking maybe she knows something and I could learn. In the end, it just.. was horrible

    Looking at the logs, I see where they did things differently and where I could improve. I know I wasn't keeping my dots up enough and part of that is, I think, I was just.. panicking I guess and feeling very self-conscious over their comments of "I'm just watching you."
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    Last edited by Kakiko; 08-13-2018 at 05:38 PM.
    Canadian, eh!
    "When someone told me I live in a fantasy land, I nearly fell off my unicorn"

  3. #16933
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    Frizze's Avatar
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    Frizze Steeleblaze
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamsoap View Post
    Is it common for people to get carried in the main scenario roulette?
    Yes. Usually people who know how to play, and often while theyre complaining about how much time the roulette takes.
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  4. #16934
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    JohnSeal's Avatar
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    Character
    Andre Cat
    World
    Lich
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 60
    I am sorry for the horrible experience Honestly 2 WHMs is not the best team in any ex trial or raid but Tsu Ex doesn’t require a lot of healing except in few phases. Btw really often DPS make mistakes and get caught in the “fans” spinning, light or whatever so probably was not entirely her or yours fault (: Anyway most important thing for healers other than skills is to have synchronism, WHM are not optimal in phases when you have to run or dodge but AST/SCH are perfect so that’s matter of adaptation mostly btw during Zeno’s AST can solo heal trust me and in add phase the WHM should solo heal so the AST can spam gravity
    Anyway don’t mind about her anymore just forget it ^^
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  5. #16935
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    Valcarde's Avatar
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    Character
    Alex Valcarde
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 90
    Leveling my baby RDM, get Dusk Vigil in leveling roulette, whatever.

    Get a tank/healer couple.

    Most of you can already see how this is going.

    Tank has overgeared for this dungeon just by looking at him, no problem. But he dies on the snoll group past the first big furry dude.

    Okay... Guess the tank kinda sucks.

    Get to the first boss, everyone seems to be low health constantly, I can't help with heals as Vercure is a 54 ability. But we kill it.

    Hallway with the large amount of zombie spawns, healer's going bananas with Holy, yay!

    But things are still taking forever to die.

    We get to second boss, second boss, tank is dropping like a potato, healer dies quickly, me and the samurai who has come in to replace the two other dps who left in frustration before then manage to burst Ser Braindrain down before he turns us into ribbons after the tank dies.

    It's at this time I look at the healer.

    ... Ilvl 37 mainhand.

    ... ...

    We stagger into the boss room, we try it once because, whatever, we may be able to deal with the gryphon fast enough as both me and the samurai have decent deeps.

    Surprise!

    Healer dies on first gaol, tank dies immediatly after.

    I initiate a vote-kick on the healer at that point, it passes (the sam was laughing when he found out the weapon problem) tank boyfriend leaves too, and the replacement tank/healer were baffled as to what happened and even more baffled about the ilvl 37 healer.

    Birb went down fairly quickly with 4 competent people.
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  6. #16936
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    This reminded me of the Tamtara run I did a few days ago on my alt.
    Just quickle glanced at the healer, saw the CNJ class and the Novice gear, "Ok, I go a bit slower, not a worry"
    Pulling mobs a little slower than normal and notice my health dropping like the panties on a stonesthrow strumpet.
    Muscle memory takes over as I watch the healer....

    Cure..Cure..Cure..Cure..cure.... what is this? Constantly running low on MP so I look again at the healers gear... Weathered Cane equipped!!!

    I link the item in party chat and say "Dude, you gotta replace that asap" my potions healed more HP than the healer.
    Ended up going dog slow as the healer tried valiantly, but struggled on even small pulls. We eventually made it out and got an auto translate "I'm sorry" from the healer.
    I can only hope they looked up how their weapon affects their healing potency for the future.

    Had some pretty good DPS which really helped get us through
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  7. #16937
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    Ursa_Vonfiebryd's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Ursa Nightrain
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    This has probably already been commented on but wow. Wiping to the atomos part in WoD because people couldn't step on the glowy pads is not something I ever thought I'd experience. Mostly because I didn't know that particular wipe existed. Way to surprise me, ARR content. Yes. :/
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  8. #16938
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    ChaoticCrimson's Avatar
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    Subspace
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    Character
    Crimson Law
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ursa_Vonfiebryd View Post
    This has probably already been commented on but wow. Wiping to the atomos part in WoD because people couldn't step on the glowy pads is not something I ever thought I'd experience. Mostly because I didn't know that particular wipe existed. Way to surprise me, ARR content. Yes. :/
    I had this same experience a few days ago. Now, I'd only just recently got around to unlocking that one and have only run it a handful of times, but even so I could tell that wiping there was an outlier of an experience...
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  9. #16939
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    I wish people were good with rath. If I got a clear everytime I did it I'd have 3 mounts by now. Nonstop trying to get a clear and nothing. People leave after one wipe, or flat out troll and kill people. Maybe rath IS too freaking hard and needs a nerf. I'm broken man. Nonstop for this whole week and every party i try to start fails. I have gotten the worse luck in this ever. I had some progress parties but no clears. And before anyone says it. If I could solo the damn thing I would. I'd have the mount by now. Sorry. I'm triggered, beaten and just done. Extreme sad face.
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    Last edited by ko_; 08-14-2018 at 10:48 AM.

  10. #16940
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    Character
    Maeka Blazewing
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    Steps of Faith today.

    ugh.

    I Q'd up for Trials Roulette as my 50 SCH. Got Steps of Faith, which was face-palm worthy enough.

    The first wipe, we just utterly failed. Half of the time, nobody on cannons, tanks not bringing mobs to the front, DPS focusing on the adds and not even touching the dragon.

    So we wipe and we try again, and we somehow managed to do even worse even after the mechanics were explained, and a couple sprouts were getting mad, we were saying things like "use the cannons, get on the chain traps" and they were going "dunno wtf that stuff is!" .... I made a scathing remark about how 3 years ago we passed this stuff with ease and people actually looked up fights they didn't know.

    After the 2nd wipe, we vote abandoned the duty and I Q up again.

    And......

    Steps of Faith.

    not.....again.....

    At least it's an entirely different group this time.

    I held my head in both of my hands sighing in exasperation. I told everybody what we should be doing, and the newbies again seemed clueless.

    And then I saw that the dragon was going down at a pretty good clip, and we kill him before he even breaks the last blue barrier.

    After me explaining the fight? 1 Commendation. Just one. I'm like "...really? okay whatever. I'm just glad that's over with".
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