Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post
There are not only bad mentors but the good ones are most likely not in the NN or just don't read and write in it.
Dear god in heaven... To echo a previous poster, how bad a state must your server's NN be in to elicit blanket statements such as this? It makes me sad for your sprouts.

Maybe if the "good" mentors would join the chat or speak up with the correct advice (not advocating starting arguments with anyone, just suggesting they provide factual information and leave it at that) then maybe some of the other NNs wouldn't be such dumpster fires? I keep seeing it repeated in this thread, over and over, how people "took one look at the NN chat" and left right away. Well of course, if all the good players leave without trying all that is going to be left is the bottom of the barrel. In such a situation, what else could it end up as besides terrible? It takes effort to cultivate a positive, helpful community.

For clarity, I'm not suggesting that everyone who qualifies as a mentor is obligated to jump in and try to fix up their NN (should it be one of the ones in a poor state.) But if it's such a pervasive problem and you feel strongly enough about it to voice your opinion on it and push SE to take some kind of action, why not try to take some kind of action yourself rather than just sitting by and cursing the dark?