State of the Game: Personal Player Feedback and Stats on PvE Content [No Parsers Plz]

[AxlStream]

I dream of a system where players play only with players of comparable performance. Maybe after being surrounded by 7 other questionably skilled players some would wake up and actually bother improving. Or leave the game. Either suits me. But alas, it is just a dream.

[Sebazy]

I dream of a system where players play only with players of comparable performance. Maybe after being surrounded by 7 other questionably skilled players some would wake up and actually bother improving. Or leave the game. Either suits me. But alas, it is just a dream.

Now that was a legitimately controversial suggestion

It should just be proper etiquette and courtesy to other players to always strive to be better than the player you were yesterday.

Agreed that would be a wonderful situation to strive for, however that's also idealistic to the point of naivety to expect that out of the masses.

My point isn't solely about DPS, granted that is a fair portion of it (given that combat effectively revolves around it for the majority of this game). As I stated in an earlier discussion in this thread, the idea of using healers and tanks cooldown and oGCD usage as another metric was one that appealed to me. That's not a DPS thing, that's just good form and play. Granted it's nigh impossible to accurately reflect that in a value without some form of flaw in there.

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I'll also add, lets keep in mind that no single solution is ever going to fix the skill disparity that exists within this game. It's going to take a combination of things to help ease down the gap, and I see this as one of several things that are required. Baby steps etc.

[Gemina]

Agreed that would be a wonderful situation to strive for, however that's also idealistic to the point of naivety to expect that out of the masses.

My point isn't solely about DPS, granted that is a fair portion of it (given that combat effectively revolves around it for the majority of this game). As I stated in an earlier discussion in this thread, the idea of using healers and tanks cooldown and oGCD usage as another metric was one that appealed to me. That's not a DPS thing, that's just good form and play. Granted it's nigh impossible to accurately reflect that in a value without some form of flaw in there.

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I'll also add, lets keep in mind that no single solution is ever going to fix the skill disparity that exists within this game. It's going to take a combination of things to help ease down the gap, and I see this as one of several things that are required. Baby steps etc.

Aye. It is idealistic. Even erroneous to have such an expectation. But the logic behind it isn't flawed because it only applies to players who already strive to get better. Skill ceilings do not exist because they acknowledge that there is always something that can be improved. Combat is also practical, which means spending time away from it, or from any particular job can lead to a deterioration of skill level. The good 'ol, "If you don't use it, you lose it." psychology.

If the intention from an in game parser is to give good players another tool to evaluate their own performance, I am totally on board with it. I'm afraid though, that the only thing that is going to reduce the skill disparity are the players themselves. It is unfortunate that it seems that the solution to the problem is the very same naïve and idealistic approach to content that cannot be expected from the entire playerbase. And there lies the conundrum.

[MoroMurasaki]

I'm afraid though, that the only thing that is going to reduce the skill disparity are the players themselves.

Think of a new player as being dropped in the middle of a maze. There are clues as to the way out all around them but sadly the lights are off. If something basic were implemented like the suggested PPS model I would see that as giving that new player a flashlight. It isn't going to get them out of the maze, it isn't even going to give them a map. Some people might never even turn the flashlight on!

Some people will though, and with it they'll see the clues.

No one tool could ever magically impart skills or understanding, no one is suggesting a basic meter like this would do anything that drastic, but having a tool is better than walking through a maze emptyhanded. Right now with the way you can more or less play the game all the way to the level cap and never find out you're supposed to keep Straight Shot up on BRD I think anything is better than what we have now.

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Totally off topic but I don't have another way to say it - thank you for being so awesome! I'm healing through Sigmascape now, working on God Kefka. Got a super late start. I also heal primarily with a SCH who likes to dps a lot. Your logs have been invaluable, I think they're even gonna help me figure out GK. So yeah, fangirl moment over, but thank you! <3