Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Moomba33]

Had a weird experience in Ridorana Lighthouse earlier.

The run was a bit messy but we were getting through without any wipes. The healers seemed to struggle a bit with some mechanics but that's alright we all need time to practice.
What got me though was the near wipe my party had after the second appearance of the math mechanic in the third boss. During the long cast Incinerate when everyone's at low HP from the math both healers stopped healing with most people at 60-70% health leading to 5 deaths including myself and both of them. They had MP and weren't dpsing instead as far as I could see, and they had healed us up fine the first time the mechanic happened. They just didn't heal the second for some reason.

[Ilenya]

Yeah, but I had been under the impression to not be using the aggro combo if they were off-tanking. If I'm in the wrong, then I'll gladly correct myself, but that had been stressed to me multiple times in the past to not use the aggro combo if off-tanking in lvl 50 content.

What else would they use? Paladins don't *have* a full combo besides Halone for Titan HM. I mean, being in Shield Oath as OT is silly, but their choice of attacks was not.

[RobinMalvin]

During the long cast Incinerate when everyone's at low HP from the math both healers stopped healing with most people at 60-70% health leading to 5 deaths including myself and both of them. They had MP and weren't dpsing instead as far as I could see, and they had healed us up fine the first time the mechanic happened. They just didn't heal the second for some reason.

This does sound weird to me. Not because the healers stopped healing at 60-70% but why those people would die. Case in point I pretty much did the same thing recently; put Asylum, Cure III once and co healer Helios. Everyone's health was around 60-70% by end of Incinerate. No one died and I topped the damage with Assize. This is done in pug and at least one RDM only had 39k HP. No one did the math wrong.

My only guess to the cause they died is because they failed the math test at least once. Even one stack of damage taken up debuff can sometimes be danger to non tanks that's not max geared.

[KaivaC]

What else would they use? Paladins don't *have* a full combo besides Halone for Titan HM. I mean, being in Shield Oath as OT is silly, but their choice of attacks was not.

Fair enough. I shall stand corrected then.

[Kurando]

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Yeah that's essentially what happens. If a player messes up one of the calculations but gets one correct then they may very well survive Incinerate, but they will take near if not fatal damage (if they are under geared then it's likely instant KO). If the player gets both incorrect then well they will die no doubt about it, probably only tanks would survive though don't know whether things like PLD Cover/HG would work on the debuffed ally. The calculations should happen at least 4 times in the battle so eventually someone is bound to die if they keep messing up.

[Frizze]

This does sound weird to me. Not because the healers stopped healing at 60-70% but why those people would die. Case in point I pretty much did the same thing recently; put Asylum, Cure III once and co healer Helios. Everyone's health was around 60-70% by end of Incinerate. No one died and I topped the damage with Assize. This is done in pug and at least one RDM only had 39k HP. No one did the math wrong.

My only guess to the cause they died is because they failed the math test at least once. Even one stack of damage taken up debuff can sometimes be danger to non tanks that's not max geared.

Thats a good theory, but i had a run a few weeks back where the healers wiped our group(well, the DPS and themselves - tank i think lived) on Math 201 by only healing the team up to around half. No one had missed any math problems from the robot, but the healers may have forgotten to carry a 1 when figuring out the minimum healing they could get away with. Very frustrating as a DPS(particularly one with no viable self-healing options) to do the mechanic right, stack for healing, and still die.

[Moomba33]

This does sound weird to me. Not because the healers stopped healing at 60-70% but why those people would die. Case in point I pretty much did the same thing recently; put Asylum, Cure III once and co healer Helios. Everyone's health was around 60-70% by end of Incinerate. No one died and I topped the damage with Assize. This is done in pug and at least one RDM only had 39k HP. No one did the math wrong.

My only guess to the cause they died is because they failed the math test at least once. Even one stack of damage taken up debuff can sometimes be danger to non tanks that's not max geared.

I can vouch for myself that I had all math problems correct (I was sad to lose my 4 stacks of Computation Boost).
They simply did not heal the party enough.

[Lilseph]

You know, generally, I keep my mouth shut about a lot of things. Aside from the standard greetings and goodbyes, I generally will not bug you unless it's in a helpful manner if you're struggling or in response to something. Otherwise, you probably will not hear a peep from me. But if I'm tanking a boss as a DRK, and you see I go into Grit before pulling, and you go into shield oath, and we are not dealing with a boss like Lakshmi, then please, PLDs, stop spamming your damn enmity combos. Was on Titan HM and I know the PLD was spamming their enmity combo - I've played the job, I know what the animation looks like for enmity combos, and I see how quickly your jumping up on the aggro list. I've had to unnecessary go back into Grit in multiple 8-man fights because of other tanks, for whatever reason, spamming their enmity combos while in DPS stance.

I'd be fine with it if you were intending to Shirk that aggro to me...but so far, no OT has shirked me, so why in the world are you using enmity combos as the OT?

The PLD was in the wrong for being in Shield Oath. However, I'd allow the PLD to tank level 50 content because that's only available combo as stated by other forum users. As a piece of advice, if that happens, just drop your tank stance, shirk them and let them tank.

[Mixt]

Yeah, i have had that happen too.

Everyone gets the math right, but then the healers don't heal enough and everyone but me dies.

Then the vortex thing happens and i die to the DPS check, because there is no bloody way a solo tank can take that add down in time.
Alliance wide wipe, fortunately the other two alliances were able to get us back up on our feet, but still...

[TheMightyMollusk]

Was in Steps of Faith yesterday. Ran up to use the second dragon killer, but hit it half a second too late; the snares fell off, Vishap jumped and squashed half the party.

He then died because he only had about half a percent of HP left anyway and plenty of DoTs ticking.

I still got two comms for it.