Viera as the next new race~ Show your support

[Alacran]

See, thats the issue though. Most in this thread have stated they don't want Viera to be a human with bunny ears but thats the most likely scenario for what they'll get; and that doesn't even get into the whole tall vs short argument. The simple fact is, no matter what SE does alot of people will be unhappy. I would argue that their best course of action is to not put them in the game at this point, thats the only way they don't come out of this with a giant headache.

Not doing something because someone will get upset, perfectly explains this current generations mind set.

Sticking to a theme isn't an attack against those who dislike it. Choosing to do something new is not done to spite a player base. Being silent in face of player demand due to fear of alienating either is cowardness plain and simple.

"Most in this thread" as you put it, are here to support the idea of Viera integration in FFXIV. It has been said before, if enough interest is shown then the possibility of Viera being in FFXIV has merit. Already Viera has been referenced in FFXIV, we need only now see what model is chosen as their representation in this game. Following that, why would player demand not be met?

[Alacran]

God forbid people have opinions on a public forum. Trying to censor people when they disagree with you is an awful thing to ask for

Your deity forbid one reads the title of the discussion before your two cents are forced down someones throat... Discussion within the supporting of Viera integration is possible. Discussion into why they should not be or other races integration is another thread entirely. It's just easier to bash others wants for the game from the other side of a screen.

[Sigma-Astra]

God forbid people have opinions on a public forum. Trying to censor people when they disagree with you is an awful thing to ask for

Well, that's kind of what you did in the tombstone topic towards me, so practice what you preach, please.

[Nestama]

Already Viera has been referenced in FFXIV, we need only now see what model is chosen as their representation in this game. Following that, why would player demand not be met?

If the model is just ripped from FFXII, then that tells me Viera aren't planned to be playable. If they're actually given a new model (built from the ground up), then we can use this as proof they'll probably be playable at some point. I will do my best not to say "I told you so" if I see any Viera supporter state their disappointment with whatever design SE go with (and I still doubt they will have the same lore as XII's Viera). I'd be very disappointed if it's just a human with rabbit ears no taller than a Midlander, though. Surely SE have the funds to at least try.

All that said, regarding your "Not to mention that many who want said "diversity" would not use the races in question" comment, I would play as a Lupin were they playable. Or any beastman, really (when I was a Roegadyn, I fashioned this look for a few months. It did not look as good on Lalafells)... except the Sylphs, Moogles and Namazu.

[Alacran]

If the model is just ripped from FFXII, then that tells me Viera aren't planned to be playable. If they're actually given a new model (built from the ground up), then we can use this as proof they'll probably be playable at some point. I will do my best not to say "I told you so" if I see any Viera supporter state their disappointment with whatever design SE go with (and I still doubt they will have the same lore as XII's Viera). I'd be very disappointed if it's just a human with rabbit ears no taller than a Midlander, though. Surely SE have the funds to at least try.

All that said, regarding your "Not to mention that many who want said "diversity" would not use the races in question" comment, I would play as a Lupin were they playable. Or any beastman, really (when I was a Roegadyn, I fashioned this look for a few months. It did not look as good on Lalafells)... except the Sylphs, Moogles and Namazu.

As i said "Many who want said "diversity" " not all. Never have i said there would be no one who would use more bestial races. I have maintained that the amount of people who would do so is a very slim minority not justifying the amount of time,effort, resources, or possible item /emote/ mount exclusion due to structural differences.

Many times you and i have clashed about this topic, never once did i question whether you would use a more bestial race you have often advocated for, unlike some. We may not agree, but your sincerity for the subject has been noted.

[Lambdafish]

Well, that's kind of what you did in the tombstone topic towards me, so practice what you preach, please.

Disagreeing with a topics subject matter is far different from trying to turn a regular request thread into a cash shop thread. Maybe also refrain from the personal attacks across different threads, keep it to the thread where it is relevant.

[Sigma-Astra]

Disagreeing with a topics subject matter is far different from trying to turn a regular request thread into a cash shop thread. Maybe also refrain from the personal attacks across different threads, keep it to the thread where it is relevant.

Twisting people's words around to suit your own narrative is a form of trying to censor them and creating an echo chamber. That's not what I did in that topic and you know it, but if you want to keep throwing that excuse around because name-dropping one word seems to offend you, then so be it.

It was my opinion. You didn't like it and cried troll the moment that you could, and now you're lecturing other people about doing exactly what you already had done. It's hypocritical.

God forbid people have differing opinions on a public outlet.....I mean, really, we can't speak sentences without one person claiming you're a troll simply because of their own personal bias towards the cash shop despite everyone else having a perfectly normal conversation about it and seeming to be okay with it in the topic, even the topic creator.

If you don't like your own fallacies being pointed out in other topics, then maybe don't do it?

[Mirakumi]

Yes, please.

[reivaxe]

I not only support this but feel it's coming 100%.

That being said, the talk about disappointing people. You can't please everyone, they sure as heck didn't please me with the "Dragon" girls. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't do something lol!

Anyway, I feel like most of us want this.

FemRoe tall, sporty, big hipped (for girls) bunny people with digitigrade feet and bunny ears.

I really don't think that any of that is outside their power and I do feel that something like that is what most are hoping for.

Problem is in what path they may take ... cause they can easily go the path of making them small and cute pear shaped people that look youthful. Even though I want the tall version I may get that if it's the only option just cause I love bunnies so much. But I know some people who wont go for that and would just stay a cat girl.

That's why I personally think they should do a Human deal and make a tall group and a small group. Sure, more work and all ... but really both hit a demo, a feeling that's not repped in the current line up. And plus, I'm sure they want to please as many as they can so that people convert to them. If you're gonna go through the trouble of making a version of the shoe library to fit their feet might as well make the most of it and have a big and small scaled version.

I mean, yeah, bunny people may have to deal with not everything looking good on their feet ... just like how tail races have to deal with clipping. Not the end of the world to have their toes be shown in most glams, that's pretty much how GW2 treats it..

[RagingAvatar]

I love the Viera but I think I'd prefer something new for Eorzea. Not everything has to be derived from other Final Fantasy games.