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  1. #11
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    Cidel's Avatar
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    Cidel Paratonnerre
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    No. They should just call it a "Blue Mage" and develop their lore for it however they deem fit. No reason to have to rename and present it as anything else just because Bravely Default had an affinity of renaming almost half of their classic Final Fantasy jobs.

    I'd almost say they more or less tried to go this route in FFXIV 1.0 and when the fans weren't feeling the "classes" they introduced iconic classic named jobs to save the day with familiarity. I don't foresee them straying from implementing more classic named jobs- with the exception of the "FFXIV-unique job" Yoshi mused about once.
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    Last edited by Cidel; 07-31-2018 at 01:24 AM.

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    Mahrze Crossner
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    BLU will be fine by just learning from "unique" monsters in its own Job Quests. BLU can stand out via being a the opposite of AST considering most BLU magic usually relates to enfeeblements. And if that's not a design route, whichever outcome will be more in-tune to the job than adding a vampire layer to it.
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    If you say so.

  3. #13
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    Lumen Stargazer
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Cidel View Post
    No. They should just call it a "Blue Mage" and develop their lore for it however they deem fit. No reason to have to rename and present it as anything else just because Bravely Default had an affinity of renaming almost half of their classic Final Fantasy jobs.

    I'd almost say they more or less tried to go this route in FFXIV 1.0 and when the fans weren't feeling the "classes" they introduced iconic classic named jobs to save the day with familiarity. I don't foresee them straying from implementing more classic named jobs- with the exception of the "FFXIV-unique job" Yoshi mused about once.
    Exactly I don't want to play a "Vampire" I want to play a Blue Mage. Why do you guys think FFXIV 1.0 Classes failed so badly because while they were basically "White Mage", "Black Mage", "Warrior" they not only didn't feel like one they weren't named one.

    I play Final Fantasy for the jobs and a Vampire to me is not a Blue Mage. That's like saying a mage in other games are black mages and while true, it doesn't have that same feeling.
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    Last edited by Brightshadow; 07-31-2018 at 02:17 AM.

  4. #14
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    Lho Polaali
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahrze View Post
    BLU will be fine by just learning from "unique" monsters in its own Job Quests.
    They can be really 'unique' monsters if you utilize the Soul Crystal. Ya know, that thing that ALREADY houses knowledge and abilities that you gain gradual access to. Say it's skills taken from enemies in the past, and you focus on obtaining that first because you can get the skills from the today enemies whenever you want. It's a "get out of jail" ticket to let them do whatever they want with BLU while maintaining the lore context.
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  5. #15
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    Maeror Montealvo
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    Please no. We already have a job that draws power from the abyss/ void and uses darkness to fight. Please don't suggest my favorite job's lore and theme be stolen for yet another DPS job in the sea of an already bloated role. I feel better would be Blue Mage as a Tank with either Gun Blades or Scimitars. The Blue Magic can simply be Garlean Ceruleam Magi Tech or traditional monster skills learned from Monster types instead of individual monsters in the same genus (Ashkin, Voidsent, Forgekin, Primal, Spoken, ect...), obtained via quest. Yoshi P has long said Blue Mage would not function as it did in FFXI, shoehorning it to fit FFXIV as such would just be a disservice.
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    Last edited by Alacran; 07-31-2018 at 06:34 AM.

  6. #16
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    Remedi Maxwell
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    They can be really 'unique' monsters if you utilize the Soul Crystal. Ya know, that thing that ALREADY houses knowledge and abilities that you gain gradual access to. Say it's skills taken from enemies in the past, and you focus on obtaining that first because you can get the skills from the today enemies whenever you want. It's a "get out of jail" ticket to let them do whatever they want with BLU while maintaining the lore context.
    Why not both?
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  7. #17
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    PatronasCharm's Avatar
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    Patronas Charm
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    Leviathan
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    Red Mage Lv 96
    Perhaps, this may be a cool thing: reincorporate Blue Mage's style into a different "Job."; but I just want to play a Blue Mage; regardless of how implemented. Heck, maybe they'll learn the ability from another Blue Mage that's the actual trainer?

    Imagine what a fun throwback would it be if the ol' classic AF Blue Mage from FFXI is the player's Mentor, and that said character, transfers his essence into the player's Soul Crystal to learn the spells.

    Not sure how complicated it would be to actually "Learn" an ability from an enemy since most enemies just spam just that, their abilities, as us players just do our WS Rotation and what not.

    In regards to Vampire, I can't wait to delve into Bravely Default; maybe we can see it as an MMO one day, or perhaps a new game will be introduced for the Nintendo Switch!
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  8. #18
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    Mimilu's Avatar
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    Mimiji Miji
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    Exodus
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    I remember when I posted a Vampire job idea here on the forums three years ago...It didn't end well. >x>
    Personally, I'm all for giving jobs with bland names more flavor. >w>
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  9. #19
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    Reiya Rahamos
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    I don't really understand the arguments of "No I want to play Blue mage with X" um, even if you weren't aware of the design stylizing of the Devs at this point, why do you play FF14 at all? You do realize that the majority of the classes don't adhere to any idea of what the original incarnation of them existed before hand right? You do know Warrior never existed in any previous FF game and that it's actually more a deviation of Berserker from ff5, and that Scholar is nothing like actual scholars from previous games, Samurai and Ninja, have just about nothing in common with any previous incarnations of the jobs from previous games save for their names, Machinist? Never existed until 14, and you can't even argue any similarities because non exist outside of using a gun. So even if they do decide to make a blue mage what makes you think it'll play anything like any Blue mage you've seen before? It could be called Blue Mage and play like exactly like a Vampire, or like a Magical Girl anime heroine, "Blue Star Power Yo!" <--(no one is going to catch this reference or where it came from other than die hard youtube fans/watchers)
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    Last edited by Selvokaz; 07-31-2018 at 01:37 PM.

  10. #20
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Lamia
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Or Blue Mage can just stay as Blue Mage. Odds are we'll "learn" skills via the Job quests and depending on how far SE go with it, learn from bosses in dungeons and raids.

    Of the coloured Mages, Black and Red have stuff to do with the Void. White Mages do not. Let's balance it out and have Blue Mage having nothing to do with Voidsent/demons.
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