Halp! When to Use DPS Limit Breaks?

[Knahli]

It doesn't.


In a typical last boss fight, the second bar will fill when the boss has so little HP left that a single bar would have killed him. But assume anyway that you would a second bar. A melee LB2 would not do as much damage as an AoE LB1 on 4-8 trash mobs. If there's no melee DD, an AoE LB1 on any trash group would do more damage than an AoE LB2 on the boss.

There is no such "closing" on the LB window. If there is a caster or ranger in the party, it is appropriate to LB any trash group of 4 or more. If there are only casters/rangers in the party, LBing anything that isn't a boss is better than LBing the boss.

Arguing the most efficient use of LB is a different matter entirely but thank you for explaining the numbers to me as I always did wonder where exactly the pay-off leaned in favour of caster, beyond (obviously) very large pulls.

What I was referring to by "window" was the minimum time you should allow if your goal is to have a full LB bar by the final boss. If you believe that's inefficient then that's perfectly fine and I'll take your word on it for my own runs in the future, but the OP came across as hesitant and concerned about the opinions of their fellow party members as a result of using their LB at an 'undesirable' time and - regardless of whether its ideal or not - the standard is to LB the final boss, so having a full bar for that will, at the very least, avoid any potential grumblings from any disgruntled DPS in the party.

For the assertive type, its simple enough to just explain your reasoning should you be questioned, but being shy about things like that myself, I know I would at the very least hesitate to break from the norm - I figured the OP might be a little similar.


You're not wrong about the final boss often dying/reaching the point where a single bar will suffice before the second bar can fully charge and - prior to your suggestion - I would have said that's simply another matter to consider if you're familiar with the run, albeit I believe it varies from dungeon to dungeon and, naturally, party to party. Though with all that said, I am by no means an avid dungeon'er these days, so I am not the most experienced with 4.0 dungeon content and I'll leave it up to the rest of you as to how those ones tend to go.

[Ceridwenae]

... but the OP came across as hesitant and concerned about the opinions of their fellow party members as a result of using their LB at an 'undesirable' time and - regardless of whether its ideal or not - the standard is to LB the final boss, so having a full bar for that will, at the very least, avoid any potential grumblings from any disgruntled DPS in the party.

For the assertive type, its simple enough to just explain your reasoning should you be questioned, but being shy about things like that myself, I know I would at the very least hesitate to break from the norm - I figured the OP might be a little similar.

Oops, I have to say, I was the disgruntled DPS in the party, which is why I decided to clarify! I've been that "last boss only" LB person, with caveats in certain places, and so when I'd seen a few recent baby dungeon runs with different LB prangs from the other co-DPS, I needed clarification! Normally yes, I'm shy (reason below), but if I'm on DRG I'm a little more assertive. I have no idea why.

My main takeaway here has been to bear the information/advice provided in mind, do what I've been doing with more attention to adapting to others, and don't get bent out of shape if things don't happen "perfectly." And also wish there was some sort of official guideline on this, or it was incorporated into the Hall of Novices, like "Hey, role X! This can be a nice time to use an LB, but don't be afraid to experiment and communicate with your party!" Or something.

I have social anxiety and play games like this to actually help with that, but I need guidelines or I have rug-pulled-from-under-me moments. I do the best I can do, and really try very, very hard not to sweat the small stuff, which this, in all essence, is.

Again, thanks to everyone for your input here. It really helps me, more than you realise. <3