Letter to MR Yoshi: Why parses system is destroying the ffxiv world.

[Enla]

Even Ultimate's enrages aren't that bad, they're really fairly tuned for the dps the average player can bring I feel.

Like I won't pretend to be the best player. My FFlog for Tsukiyomi shows I have a lot of room to improve and if the day ever comes that I seriously want to put my nose to the ground and have enough time to play to do so, I will. Yet unless someone is royally messing up I feel like the developers tend to be a little too forgiving with many of the enrage mechanics. Hell, I'm almost of the opinion more fights need them. Anyone whose has sat through a twenty minute long war of attrition with Construct 7 can attest to that. There are fights in this game that are easy to somewhat recover from, but also easy to get overly fatigued with. If you end up with a screwball Alliance in Ridorana it's not out of the question that you might end up with half the group on the floor for that fight while people continue plugging along in the background. All of them scrambling to recover and unable to catch their breath to assess what went wrong. (And I literally was in Alliance two weeks ago that had one of these dreaded twenty minute fights... So it still does happen.)

That's one of the reasons I do like enrage meters. Yes it's disappointing when you can't make them. But it's a hard reset that gives you some breathing room to asses where improvement is needed. If you're just constantly pounding your head against a wall, yes you might actually break through it after awhile, but you're not exactly learning anything out of the whole ordeal.

[Paladinleeds]

That's one of the reasons I do like enrage meters. Yes it's disappointing when you can't make them. But it's a hard reset that gives you some breathing room to asses where improvement is needed. If you're just constantly pounding your head against a wall, yes you might actually break through it after awhile, but you're not exactly learning anything out of the whole ordeal.

I like that line of thinking. Makes me think that enrage timers need to be more tightly tuned. These are optional raids we're talking about, they should be relatively punishing. In a game like FFXI where it's mostly overworld content (from what I've read), it wouldn't necessarily work so well. But FFXIV where you go in with a specific group of people into an instance (even though that specific group may be picked by DF), absolutely enrage timers work IMO. The idea is not to keep throwing people at it (especially since there's no cooldown on in-combat resses). Now WoW, which limits how many in-combat resses you have (back when I played, only Druid had an in-combat ress that had a 30 minute cooldown), the enrage timers aren't so needed, because you can't just keep throwing bodies at it (at least the bosses that put a wall up to make sure people can't rejoin) until it drops. But the design decision behind resses in this game makes enrage timers a much needed things.

i dont like enrages because i play a healer and they make me feel pressured to do dps but doing dps isn't my job my job is to heal so what am i supposed to do when the boss enraged other than tell my dps to try harder????????

The thing is, in this game, a healer is just a DPS with a good healing toolkit, and a tank is just a DPS with a good tanking toolkit. Everyone here is simply a DPS at the end of the day. It's just the way the game is designed. They're gonna have to completely gut healing and tanking prowess to the ground if they wanna make it so that healers and tanks really are healers and tanks. We're just too strong in those roles, which means we basically become additional DPS. I believe people run the maths and healers and tanks are able to put out like 60% of the damage of an equivalent DPS (while still being able to do their primary role of healing or tanking). 60% is absolutely nothing to scoff at and you really want to push that out as best as you can.

[raerae]

i dont like enrages because i play a healer and they make me feel pressured to do dps but doing dps isn't my job my job is to heal so what am i supposed to do when the boss enraged other than tell my dps to try harder????????

[raerae]

no i dont want to do a DPSing because i played this game to heal but thanx

[Paladinleeds]

no i dont want to do a DPSing because i played this game to heal but thanx

Then I'll be brutally honest, this isn't the game for you. The very innate design of this game is that we are just DPS with a secondary healing toolkit. Now let's say healing and tanking prowess was neutured that badly that while doing our primary roles, we'd be able to squeeze about maybe 1% of the damage a DPS could put out if we're the very best, because so much of our time is taken healing, then yeah, I'd be right with you just healing. But there's so little healing to do overall because of just how powerful us healers are, that all there is left for us to do is mostly push out extra damage. Of course, if you're new and learning a fight, you'll be putting out a lot less damage as you most likely play it safer with heals, and that's understandable. But when it comes to dungeons for example, using bosses as an example, I tend to have a 90/10 DPS/healing split in terms of what actions I'm doing. And I'm not a very good healer either. If I just did that 10% healing and didn't bother DPSing, I'd be spending most of my time idle. Now true, I flummox in Savage, but that's something I'm working on. ABC. Always Be Casting. If healing isn't needed, cast damage spells instead.

[raerae]

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umm there is a lot of healings to do i dont know what game you are playing but i am always healing when i do raiding so there is plenty of time to heal

[Paladinleeds]

umm there is a lot of healings to do i dont know what game you are playing but i am always healing when i do raiding so there is plenty of time to heal

I've done Sigmascape Savage 1-3 (didn't beat 3 as static disbanded shortly after we got to Sigma Savage 3). Trust me, even there, there's plenty room for damage. Now, if you're essentially solohealing for the most part then yeah, you won't have much time to put out damage (if any), but with proper co-ordination of heals (I will admit this is easier said than done outside of statics), both of you will have ample time to put out damage. And it's still a hefty chunk of damage and I have personally witnessed my DPS as a healer being the difference between hitting enrage and beating the raid.

And I'm sure Hyomin and Bourne, both of whom are actively progging Ultimate, can vouch for me there that healer DPS really is nothing to scoff at and there's plenty room.

[raerae]

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whenever i raid sigmascape there is always healing to do so i dont know what you are talking there is a lot of damage that happening

[Wegente]

umm there is a lot of healings to do i dont know what game you are playing but i am always healing when i do raiding so there is plenty of time to heal

i think if you can't dps you shouldn't, nobody can force you to dps if you dont want!!! this is a game remember so you can do whatever you want.

[SargentToughie]

i think if you can't dps you shouldn't, nobody can force you to dps if you dont want!!! this is a game remember so you can do whatever you want.

You- wh....

You realize that you're talking to Monday'nite Two'chest, right?

There's a lot of damage going out when they raid Sigmascape alright. Just sayin.