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  1. #571
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    AmeliaVerves's Avatar
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    Amelia Wafflesmack
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaitoHikari View Post
    Trap bait indeed.
    Ye, idk what's up with those people but I see it all the time. Ofc I get curious when I see such PFs and I check the party leaders logs. Mostly those are people who are slightly above average, with an mediocre median avg % (at best) and only one or two lucky runs (mostly padded by ast friends).
    Not the type of people I want to play with, so I just ignore their PFs and join some normal farm partys or help out with clears whenever I feel like it.

    Well. I do have to admit that maybe one or two times I joined such PFs with friends and we had our fun trolling the party leader who was acting all cocky and arrogant when we asked him about his median avg %. Not nice, I know, but well noone can be nice and gentle all the time I guess.
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    I don't know, man.

  2. #572
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    ViolaCrossfire's Avatar
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    Viola Crossfire
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    Odin
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Now a lot of you guys think that public parses are only destructive to those who have bad ones uploaded. But it can easily work the other way around.
    I had someone worship me in a Tsuko PF clear party saying that "he had a good feeling about me". He most likely read my logs which were all 90+ since I had a good static for a while.
    After a wipe he said he "confirmed his suspicions".
    He proceeded to exhibit annoying behavior wanting to know my IRL sex which he asked during the fight. I for the most part ignored it but I would be lying if it wasn't getting on my nerves.

    Joining parties that have experience that I feel are above my level is something I never do.
    I think a lot of the problems is that logs are an outside phenomenon and as such gets overlooked and people never know their own performance so they overestimate themselves.
    But by others it is regarded as gospel which is also the wrong way to go about it.
    If you want to blame logs don't, improving yourself is a much easier way to change your situation.
    Stay humble folks.
    And if you want a perfect run, make a static and do not advertise a pf.

    Overall I think parsing has done more good than harm. It is up to SE to figure out how to make it less toxic either by incorporating the good parts or if they are lazy (likely) then I would be fine by keeping things as is.
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    Last edited by ViolaCrossfire; 07-26-2018 at 01:29 AM.

  3. #573
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    van_arn's Avatar
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    Van Arn
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    Goblin
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SaitoHikari View Post
    Trap bait indeed.

    During the first week of 4.2, I ended up in a Byakko EX party led by a DRK tank with a PF description that was basically 'I want elitists with 90+% percentile scores'. I actually had a historical percentile of 100 for the fight already, only because I had the highest recorded DPS for days 1-2. Never said a word though, even when he started worshiping me even though I knew it wasn't that big a deal (getting high historicals during the first week is really more a matter of luck -especially for Bard-, and I guess ability to learn/adapt mid-run/guess mechanics very very quickly). I did manage to convince him to stop checking the damn parses and let a bunch of people who claimed that they were stuck at enrage and just wanted to clear stay in the party, if only because he was going to be waiting forever with the criteria he set. That, and I checked -his- records and knew something was up with him.

    Indeed, when we got in, he didn't even know how to properly tank swap, so I watched in horror as it was either me or the poor RDM that got repeatedly slam dunk'd into the ground even WITH our enmity reduction skills. After several pulls, we all decided enough was enough and we weren't going to carry him to a clear, especially when he started blaming the rest of us for not DPSing fast enough and not using our enmity reduction properly. I left and tried to reform the party while looking for a different tank, and about 4 members of the old party returned. We cleared first pull, which meant that the failure to tank swap during the slams was the only reason we failed to clear before. Oh, and it turned out that half of the new party earned their first clear that run too.

    We went on to farm 8 or so runs, a few people left, got a few more people that came in their clears, and so on without any issues... There were apparently other people parsing me because I got tells from a few of the party members wondering how the hell I was doing so much damage as a Bard. Bard is really easy in Byakko EX though.
    I had a gladiator 70 wanting a carry through Tsukibadanimevillain EX last night. "It's not a big deal," he said. Son, if you're not going to put in the effort to do your job quests I'm not going to help carry you. The dude somehow had 6 people in his PF.
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  4. #574
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    Ilan's Avatar
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    Kurumii Tokisakii
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmeliaVerves View Post
    Ye, idk what's up with those people but I see it all the time. Ofc I get curious when I see such PFs and I check the party leaders logs. Mostly those are people who are slightly above average, with an mediocre median avg % (at best) and only one or two lucky runs (mostly padded by ast friends).
    Not the type of people I want to play with, so I just ignore their PFs and join some normal farm partys or help out with clears whenever I feel like it.

    Well. I do have to admit that maybe one or two times I joined such PFs with friends and we had our fun trolling the party leader who was acting all cocky and arrogant when we asked him about his median avg %. Not nice, I know, but well noone can be nice and gentle all the time I guess.
    I remember our groups during HW, when bird farming was still a thing, with a text like: "xyz farm bring high dps we'll check your fflogs....". If you went to check theirs, they pretty often didn't even clear the fight or just killed it once or twice. Not to forget all the "Skip soar or disband" groups where the leaders didn't pull their weight and just expected a carry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
    暗闇の力#7805

  5. #575
    Player Aquaslash's Avatar
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    Zinnia Higana
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    Cactuar
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    Samurai Lv 70
    I would just like to say in regards to tank stance that I enjoy pulling wall to wall in Defiance, popping Inner Release and a CD, spamming Steel Cyclone and watching my HP stay perfectly still at full. In those ten seconds I feel like an absolute God. Please never take this away from me.
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  6. #576
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    dotsforlife's Avatar
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    Dippin' Dots
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    Leviathan
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    Astrologian Lv 100


    Can we not?
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    "Had to be me. Someone else might have gotten it wrong." - Mordin Solus

  7. #577
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    Ultima's Avatar
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    Hibiki Hisakawa
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by dotsforlife View Post


    Can we not?
    I see your point, you've made a very valid argument we will now cease our activities. Unfortunately, I have already locked the train onto this track and it will not stop.

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  8. #578
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    Vstarstruck's Avatar
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    Beastmistress Milk
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by JunseiKei View Post
    To be fair, the Feast chat was absolutely horrendous. I can't believe some of the messages that were being sent when SE was pushing Feast really hard. Screenshots from friends from what they experienced, just from lapse of judgement on their part. The vetern XIV PvPers were not at all friendly by any means to having new blood competing if they were stuck with them on the same team.

    I mean jeeze, I remember a friend being upset and posting a screenshot of someone telling her to uninstall and hang herself because of a loss. Told her to report the player, but the fact it was even said is just astonishing.
    Blame the people, not the tool. blaming the tool leads to all sorts of slippery slope arguments, same can be said with parses. If a city or some localized area had a ton of car accidents do you suddenly say ban all cars? To me SE only did that because they did not want to ban all those people with the fear of losing money, or hiring more GM staff to handle all the calls. So they took a shortcut, like many things.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ruf View Post
    Kaiiiiiva C
    Argue the concept, not the person, you know my past with them as well, do you see them going at their throats at every turn?
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    Last edited by Vstarstruck; 07-26-2018 at 02:01 PM.

  9. #579
    Player ShadowHunterrX's Avatar
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    Mivau Lawantal
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    Moogle
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmeliaVerves View Post
    Ye, idk what's up with those people but I see it all the time. Ofc I get curious when I see such PFs and I check the party leaders logs. Mostly those are people who are slightly above average, with an mediocre median avg % (at best) and only one or two lucky runs (mostly padded by ast friends).
    Not the type of people I want to play with, so I just ignore their PFs and join some normal farm partys or help out with clears whenever I feel like it.

    Well. I do have to admit that maybe one or two times I joined such PFs with friends and we had our fun trolling the party leader who was acting all cocky and arrogant when we asked him about his median avg %. Not nice, I know, but well noone can be nice and gentle all the time I guess.
    Hmmm, you sound like someone I know hmmm.

    People still having fun over here and do we have a solution yes ?
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    Last edited by ShadowHunterrX; 07-26-2018 at 02:36 PM.

  10. #580
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    NessaWyvern's Avatar
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    Nessa Goddessly
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    Ravana
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    Conjurer Lv 96
    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post
    Not to forget all the "Skip soar or disband" groups where the leaders didn't pull their weight and just expected a carry.
    I joined a party for that once, and it was a lootmaster. Turns out the DRG partly leader had never cleared it, and was dead on the ground for most of the time. When we called him out on it, he said something along the lines of "It's my party, I can do what I want". We all left and blacklisted.
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