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    https://gamerescape.com/2016/11/15/f...-fan-festival/
    F: It will change gear progression all together.

    Y: It is the second expansion pack, and if we were to do the same thing all over again, a lot of people would get tired of it. Like I said earlier, the base design of FFXIV will not change. It’s a game made for this age, but that’s exactly why even if it were to change in the future to fit the future trends, it won’t return to the past. And even if a past trend were to become a modern trend, it still must include a “modern vibe” to it. It is not negating the past, but rather extracting the interesting elements, and inviting players who like them. That’s the product we are aiming for.
    So my question with pointing that out here is, do they realize they just copied HW and reskinned it for SB? Why are they still doing the same thing, despite stating they are aware of doing the same thing will tire people?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    https://gamerescape.com/2016/11/15/f...-fan-festival/

    So my question with pointing that out here is, do they realize they just copied HW and reskinned it for SB? Why are they still doing the same thing, despite stating they are aware of doing the same thing will tire people?
    TBH the part where it says "the base design of FFXIV will not change" is probably the ilvl, tomestone, dungeon, MSQ, raid formula, they are mentioning. They know they are doing it, and they acknowledge it right in the statement. I presume they keep doing the same thing because it sells. Until people stop buying it they have little reason to change anything.

    He's saying if they change the core of the game it will because a breakthrough happens right now in the genre but it won't return completely to something like EQ/FFXI 2004.

    The last half of that statement sounds like Eureka. "Past Trend" = grinding mobs/time consuming/exp loss, "Modern Vibe" = Public Events/FATEs/WQs.

    The context for the answer is being able to upgrade armor in Eureka and possibly the zodiac/anima weapons (I think the "people will get tired of it" = grinding old content for the third time for relic). Also in the interview he says Eureka isn't for everyone.

    Y: We don’t. Up until now, in the theme park called FFXIV land, we went to various attractions through the Zodiac and Anima Weapon quest lines, but I think a lot of people are getting tired of that system.
    Honestly this interview is so old (7 months before SB launch) by the time Eureka released they must have gone through a bunch of prototypes and scrapped things since it got delayed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    https://gamerescape.com/2016/11/15/f...-fan-festival/

    So my question with pointing that out here is, do they realize they just copied HW and reskinned it for SB? Why are they still doing the same thing, despite stating they are aware of doing the same thing will tire people?
    This was in the part of the conversation where they were speaking about Eureka and the possibility of having Armor as part of the Relic as well as the Weapon. Context matters.

    What I took from this was the "story mode, Dungeons, 24 man, Tome gear, Savage" are all the base design. When he talked about "changing to fit future trends" he was referring to the overall question about Eureka and how this content is the non-base-design content and while they want to give a ride to their players that feels like FFXI they have to modernize it.

    "Why are they still doing the same thing, despite stating they are aware of doing the same thing will tire people?"

    Because you misinterpreted the question and took it out of context then built this question up so you could easily knock it down. I think there is a term for it but it escapes me at the moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MageBlack View Post
    Because you misinterpreted the question and took it out of context then built this question up so you could easily knock it down. I think there is a term for it but it escapes me at the moment.
    Straw man fallacy, or strawmanning.
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