Now that SMN have Bahamut can we have the others?

[TheMightyMollusk]

The reason I'm against all of this "add ALL THE PRIMALS" stuff is that it is WAY too much work on the devs for just one single job.

Some of them are already in the game, though. Ramuh's Arbiters are basically the egi model, and the boss of the level 70 Summoner job quest uses Sephirot-egis. I think Leviathan was datamined at one point, too, but I could be wrong.

[Magic-Mal]

Some of them are already in the game, though. Ramuh's Arbiters are basically the egi model, and the boss of the level 70 Summoner job quest uses Sephirot-egis. I think Leviathan was datamined at one point, too, but I could be wrong.

Then they can just make them glamours like the carbuncles if they have to. There is no reason why they should have to make each one full-fledged pets with their own unique attacks as they'd even have to rebalance everything. Way too much work. Heck. Even egi glamours are too much work. I don't see SCHs getting new Faerie glamours. I don't see MCHs getting new turret glamours. Again, why should SMN get all this love and work put into them just for aesthetics? Think in SEs shoes.

[Berteaux_Braumegain]

We need all primals as demi versions. A real summoner can summon all/almost all the summons, this is how it's always been in FF. Just let us select from a list (similar to role actions list).


It's about time they let me summon Byakko or Tsukuyomi

Byakko isn't a Primal, though.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Personally I'm not asking for anything but glamours. I don't see the need for more entirely unique egis, especially since everyone would just figure out which one does the most DPS with the fewest headaches and ignore the rest anyway.

As for why this one job over any other.....why not? It's a speculation thread, we're not writing petitions or bombarding SE with demands or anything. There's nothing wrong with discussing things we'd like to see.

[Rufalus]

These are two great examples for why they probably won't do that - Tsukuyomi - and Shiva - were only summoned into host bodies, we don't know if they can be summoned on their own, same goes for Susano. Now, Susano at least was said to be a Primal, but Byakko isn't. There's no lore reason for us to be able to summon him. And it's this nitpicking - you can summon this but can't summon that for some arbitrary reason - why they're not going to give us more.

Just do something something the job tutor girl learns new techniques by studying auracite, enables us to summon the shapes of any things in our memories. But all primals up to SB is probably asking too much for the near future. More ARR stuff is fine for a start.

[Berteaux_Braumegain]

I want Warring Triad egis. Even if just as glamours. Turn Titan into Sephirot, Garuda into Sophia, and Ifrit into Zurvan.

And while it'd never happen, maybe Demi-Shinryuu as a glamour for Demi-Bahamut?

This sounds like a change that could be made fairly easily given that Sephirot uses Earth, Sophia uses Wind, and Zurvan uses Fire. There are also already Sephirot-egi in-game, too.

[Magic-Mal]

As for why this one job over any other.....why not?

Because it would require Yoshi's team to use a lot(maybe even a ton) of their very limited resources on a single job and leaving the other 12 jobs with scraps or nothing. And all in the name of "I won't accept what SMN is, I want it to look cooler". You can't see what's wrong about all of this?

And yes this is just one thread within a sea of demands over the years by pretty much the same group of people who keep saying SMN isn't made correctly because of egis. Despite Yoshida already saying FFXIV's SMN is it's own unique SMN, people refuse to accept it.

Again, I wouldn't throw a fit if SMN got more egis because they have already been teased for a long, long time. But that should be it with SMN-love.

[BillyKaplan]

They invest a shit-ton of time into Perform. There's a debate to be had about cost vs. effect for either system (Perform vs. SMN glamours), but it's not like they haven't invested in "just the one job" before. And Perform keeps getting updates.

[Magic-Mal]

They invest a shit-ton of time into Perform. There's a debate to be had about cost vs. effect for either system (Perform vs. SMN glamours), but it's not like they haven't invested in "just the one job" before. And Perform keeps getting updates.

And I hate Perform. And I'm a BRD main. Perform is even a bigger waste of time than.. well anything. Only 0.001% of players use that. Luckily though, it is Soken and his team who create Perform since it's all musical. It doesn't use resources from the battle team.

[Rufalus]

I want Warring Triad egis. Even if just as glamours. Turn Titan into Sephirot, Garuda into Sophia, and Ifrit into Zurvan.

And while it'd never happen, maybe Demi-Shinryuu as a glamour for Demi-Bahamut?

This sounds like a change that could be made fairly easily given that Sephirot uses Earth, Sophia uses Wind, and Zurvan uses Fire. There are also already Sephirot-egi in-game, too.

I would enjoy doing quest battle against those egis similar to how the old ones were acquired, which upgrades summ1 to soph, summ2 to seph, summ3 to zurv (but let's us use the glam system to revert them to garuda titan ifrit carby)