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  1. #16671
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    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saphri View Post
    Usually way to occupied in the midst of a dungeon boss fight to ask for help but, if we get obliterated and have to start over, I'll use that time to ask for help/advice.
    Another time would be as you load in, type in chat that it’s your first time, and that any advice is welcome for boss mechanics. If they don’t offer it, at least you have already put forth the effort to communicate your situation. Coming from someone who has dealt with a new player’s silence being met with scorn from sharing mechanics (“Don’t give me spoilers!”), and a new player who said nothing but wanted advice (“Why didn’t you help me?!”), it is nice to at least know when a newbie wants help. Another solution is asking FC mates for advice before you queue if you are worried randoms will not assist you.
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  2. #16672
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    Saphri's Avatar
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    Mareona Inu
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    Famfrit
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    Scholar Lv 37
    I like the earlier suggesting of using the Party Finder as well. That may ultimately solve my problem. I mean, I get it, there are a class of players with a lot of experience that want to find like players so they can run these dungeons quickly. Then someone like me drops in and it just frustrates them. This is why I think the Devs should consider "Experts Only" versions of their Duty Finder and Duty Roulette. They've clearly made the effort to make this game more friendly to beginners and, by giving the expert players a space of their own, this could further help them accomplish that. The experts can still drop in on the regular dutys whenever they'd like but at least now they'd know they don't have to deal with noobs like me when they don't want to.
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    On a related note, I think I'll start an "Expert Advice" thread for asking game play questions that more experienced players can weigh in on if they'd like. (assuming there isn't already one -- new to the forums as well )
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  3. #16673
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saphri View Post
    I like the earlier suggesting of using the Party Finder as well. That may ultimately solve my problem. I mean, I get it, there are a class of players with a lot of experience that want to find like players so they can run these dungeons quickly. Then someone like me drops in and it just frustrates them. This is why I think the Devs should consider "Experts Only" versions of their Duty Finder and Duty Roulette. They've clearly made the effort to make this game more friendly to beginners and, by giving the expert players a space of their own, this could further help them accomplish that. The experts can still drop in on the regular dutys whenever they'd like but at least now they'd know they don't have to deal with noobs like me when they don't want to.
    .
    On a related note, I think I'll start an "Expert Advice" thread for asking game play questions that more experienced players can weigh in on if they'd like. (assuming there isn't already one -- new to the forums as well )
    If you need job specific advice, there is a sub-forum for DPS/Healer/Tank jobs respectively. I'm assuming that you're a Bard, so you could probably ask for help here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/forums/658

    Hyo's also given her Discord, so you could ping her there too.

    Don't let these little setbacks get you down. Trust me, there are a lot of very experienced players who still refuse to use cooldowns, or DPS as healers, or whatever it is. All kinds of players are different...it just may be you've had some bad runs with them, that's all. Don't be afraid to ask for help, whether in an instance, on the forums, or in Discord. There are plenty of people that will help you if you ask. I don't much use Discord anymore, but I'm throwing my name in there to help as well. I'm online for the next few hours, so if you want to link up, just lemme know and I'll fire up a PF real quick so I can friend request you.
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  4. #16674
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    Axhell Anchorvi
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    Zodiark
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    Machinist Lv 100
    So tried HoH 21 to 30 as a DRK. Party is PLD and 2 WHM.

    Barrier falls off and all 3 run in different directions like headless chickens. All die.

    One complains in chat and asks why they are dead.

    Oh gee I dunno /playdead
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  5. #16675
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    Eclaire De'wynter
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    Mateus
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Explain mechanics.
    Explain mechanics.
    Explain mechanics.

    Tank runs off to the literal other side of the map as Estinien brings up the barrier, dying, causing me to waste mana to raise him and thus fail.

    BLM refused to shoot the Sable Price.



    I've run The Aery as Tank, as DPS, and this was my fourth time doing it as healer.

    Hydaelyn have mercy I nearly lost it. Then the tank and one DPS left, we get replacements, and the RDM and I finish Nidhogg in one go.

    /playdead
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  6. #16676
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    Scholar Lv 37
    Tried the Hraesvelgr battle twice so far. I know the green pathways are how I avoid falling off the columns, haven't successfully got it to work yet. Ok with the Mog boss and the Pegasus, just haven't figured out how to stay on the columns yet.
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  7. #16677
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    Also, while I play Bard mostly, I also play White Mage, but lower level. I like the healer mechanic. Healing is primary but "heal spamming" is too extravagant of magic points. Ok with doing damage as a healer assuming the party is staying healthy but try to be mindful of drawing aggro, although there is a spell to reduce it. Even so, a dead healer is a devastating hit to a party. Seems best to lay low and keep the DPSs and Tanks healthy.
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  9. #16678
    Player MoroMurasaki's Avatar
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    Moro Murasaki
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    Zalera
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Daeriion_Aeradiir View Post
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    Dude... I am the tank. If they wanted to decide what to pull they should have queued as a tank.

    I don't take a healer pulling enemies as a sign that they can handle more, I see it as them being impatient and stupid. I play on ps4 too, pick up a USB keyboard at Best Buy and stop whining.

    Or, again, queue as a tank and make these decisions.
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  10. #16679
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    Amanda's Husband
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    Exodus
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Ran Skalla with a bonus BRD in the group. Only "song" he ever played was Peloton.

    I don't blame him/her tough, I blame SE. First came the Vishap nerf and then the Jump Potions. That's why we now have groups timing out on Castrum Fluminis NM and BRDs who Peloton in the midst of a pull.
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  11. #16680
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    Hyomin Park
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    Sage Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by kupokage View Post
    Ran Skalla with a bonus BRD in the group. Only "song" he ever played was Peloton.

    I don't blame him/her tough, I blame SE. First came the Vishap nerf and then the Jump Potions. That's why we now have groups timing out on Castrum Fluminis NM and BRDs who Peloton in the midst of a pull.
    Just wanna say... that bad players aren’t limited to just jump potion users. :v
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