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  1. #11
    Player
    Malzian's Avatar
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    Kylrin Arresard
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 90
    Supposedly the issue is the need for pomanders at the higher levels and pomanders do not follow a matched party between floors like they do with a fixed party. You are basically handicapping yourself for the latter floors if you were to go in with a matched party.
    (3)
    The sum of all hunt arguments over early pullers: http://goo.gl/IFT9IE

  2. #12
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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    See, I could somewhat support this since, in theory, it has no bearing on my own enjoyment of HoH. Unfortunately, people have a large tendency to whine if things are too difficult, and floors 81+ will absolutely annihilate you without well stocked pomenders. Even 71+ can prove challenging if you had nothing to work with, though far less so. Thus, my concerns is the inevitable demands for nerfs if matchmaking were ever allowed up to the highest floors.

    That being said, I do think they should allow you to convert a four man save file into a three man. At least you could salvage a run if someone bailed, albeit it would be difficult.
    (9)
    Last edited by Bourne_Endeavor; 07-11-2018 at 04:09 AM.

  3. #13
    Player ManuelBravo's Avatar
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    Shinigami Zetta
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    The problem with PF is that it requires you to stay for 6-8 hours to do a full run and usually someone will most likly have to leave before you do all the way to 100 and you will never see them again. If matchmaking were allowed we can use our own saves and play when its convenient.
    Not really you can now use cross server communication option I play with friends on other servers so that is more of an excuse now. Currently helping people clear PotD to floor 200 so we know that is more than a few hours. Now alternate options are really based on what you can do for your self. IF in doubt you can always just rely on your FC Lol well hopefully you have a dependable FC that is. Beside to get all 4 accessories you need to do it 4 times -.- , or so I hear, so your better of just doing a static group. Also having 99/99 would get you into better groups. We don't like looking around and for floors 60+ is better to skip them.
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  4. #14
    Player RiyahArp's Avatar
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    Riyah Arpeggio
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    Exodus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    I feel they knew how people felt about the matchmaking in POTD. That they did it again means they are committed to it, and its pointless to ask for change. I just don't like people demonizing others because they choose to ask for it.

    I am a little irate at the sudden softening of a few people in this thread to it. I'm guessing they are finding it a bit tougher now to find people or something.
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  5. #15
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    Paladinleeds's Avatar
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    Not really you can now use cross server communication option I play with friends on other servers so that is more of an excuse now. Currently helping people clear PotD to floor 200 so we know that is more than a few hours. Now alternate options are really based on what you can do for your self.
    Another thing is this thread with a Discord I made, especially to HELP people find groups for this content. We the community have made the tools to help you beyond what SE provides. This can help you find groups that will stick around.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

  6. #16
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    Tsumdere's Avatar
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    Fia Mortivault
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by InkstainedGwyn View Post
    I promise, if you don't go into 80+ with a full supply of magicite and pomanders, you will not clear.
    ^ This a million times over. Matchmade parties will never ever clear 80+. This is content that requires instant communication and pre-planning to clear. My party opted to start on floor 1 to get more pomanders and we were STILL bone dry by floor 99. You will die if you do not have a pomander and two mobs aggro on you. You will die if you have a giant room with Gloom + No Abilities + Blind and no pomanders. You will die if you do not have pomanders.
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  7. #17
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    Bacent Rekkes
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    Famfrit
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Terrible idea, 0/10

    Anything above floor 50 can't really be done with half assed groups, seeing how many people I get in random parties that are item trigger happy and just pure dumb.
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  8. #18
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    Thyn'a Sindyrl
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    Siren
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    You will wipe on the first floors and then whine that you can't do the content because it's too hard.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    4-5 hours is still a lot longer than most PFs are willing to stick together. I am not too concerned about not having pomanders its more about being able to do the content. And you can just get some from chests along the way even if you don't start with any.
    Thing is without pomanders you will not be able to do the content, so what you are asking is SE to nerf the content so it can be done with a matched group and not factor in pomanders.
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  10. #20
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    Ein Vaer
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    Excalibur
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    Scholar Lv 90
    I mean sure, I just don't know how useful it would be with the current rules.

    1) If a party wipes, all 4 players now have to start over from 21 or lower.
    2) You would have to have aetherpool requirements further shrinking the pool of players able to queue for it. You're gonna have a bad time with low aetherpool on higher floors.
    3) Getting into a haphazard comp like 4 dps would be a pain. Once stuff starts to hit harder (61+ Onryo of doom and above) its going to get rough.

    With 3, you can force a 1 1 2 comp to fix it but now the queue time just got worse.

    Just seems super frustrating and a lot of time spent sitting in queue. This is before even thinking about pomanders.
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