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  1. #21
    Player OurMom's Avatar
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    Bean Bunja
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    Are we allowed to post discords here? If you're in the balance discord there's a link to a pretty active Deep Dungeons discord. Lots of people and so far they all seem to run (or want to run) potd and HoH almost daily so you can surely find a group.

    Edit: Saw someone else post their link and not get banned, it's a lot of people here most of which are active.
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    Last edited by OurMom; 07-11-2018 at 10:53 AM.

  2. #22
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    Paladinleeds's Avatar
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by OurMom View Post
    Edit: Saw someone else post their link and not get banned, it's a lot of people here most of which are active.
    A lot bigger than the one I set up. Will work on migrating people over and closing the one I set up. No point having duplicates when you can have everyone in one place.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

  3. #23
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    zuzu-bq's Avatar
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    Zuzu Belloq
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    Behemoth
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    There is one, it's called Party Finder.
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  4. #24
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    KisaiTenshi's Avatar
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Excalibur
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Currently there is no matchmaking for HoH floors past 30. I do not know any people that want to do these and thus I am unable to do this content because it requires a fixed party.

    Many of us wanted matchmaking for all the floors and the original deep dungeon as well.
    This was already asked before HoH.

    I think some people have missed the point of PotD and HoH. It's for playing the game in a notably strategy-less way. If you want to succeed you need players that will form a strategy from floor 1 and continue it to floor 100 (200 for PotD.) Everything from conserving pomanders and magicite (twice now I've had parties that just blow every magicite the second they get it, and only once had three magicite's been saved for the boss) to how to pull.

    Nobody has yet solo'd, and RDM is the farthest solo.

    There's two solutions that can be had here:
    1) Roll for inventory (thus players mark greed on a certain players inventory as the one to proceed with), this may still favor matched over fix since there's a 25% chance of getting a better inventory, and if your previous party insisted on wasting everything, well here's a second chance.
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    2) Combine and Discard inventory (all inventory items are put into the common inventory, and any over 3 are discarded), unfortunately this would not be within the spirit of how the dungeon is designed compared to a fixed party, so this would favor matched over fixed.

    A variation on the second option would be to average it out. So that if 3 players had 0 and 1 player had 3, the average was 1, so you'd only continue with 1. If 4 players had 3, then you'd continue with 3.

    At any rate, it would suck to get a conservative party who saved everything, followed by a zerg-it-or-lose-it party who wastes everything.
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    Balmung
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    I think PFs and the current system are fine as is. I've attempted a total of 3 times; first time wiping at 81, second time wiping at 91, and third time I finally cleared it, and this was with different people every attempt. We all stayed for the entire duration until a wipe happened. Make it clear in your pf your intent to go from 21-100. If they are unwilling they shouldn't have joined in the first place, in my opinion.
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    Knives Jonquil
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    signing dis
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    Riyah Arpeggio
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    Exodus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Thing is without pomanders you will not be able to do the content, so what you are asking is SE to nerf the content so it can be done with a matched group and not factor in pomanders.
    I'm not sure it's good pomanders are needed so much, that you need to farm 50 floors just to stock up to have any chance. That's pure padding to force it to last longer; the floors you stock up on have zero challenge and increasingly offer little rewards the longer you do them. It's like farming a pop item in FFXI, a lot of time spent just to have the chance.

    I'd also point out that requiring them to that extent screwed up the casual floors insanely; it's really easy to skip half of the floors just by using pom, which contributes to it feeling like a slog since you do very little that's actualy fun in it. Just pick up loot. Maybe next time they can evaluate pom usage and not make it so pivotal. I mean it still was in POTD, but it seemed to be used more for dealing with crisises that you couldn't do with smart play. Here it seems absolutely vital.
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    Last edited by RiyahArp; 07-11-2018 at 02:55 PM.

  8. #28
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    Souji Hanamura
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    I get the feeling that people who are shrugging about poms and saying "eh, we just want to do the content" don't understand that the poms aren't for "finding treasure". Intuition/fortune/affluence are nice to have, but you cannot go out of your way for hoards on the platinum floors. The pomanders are for keeping your butts alive, because there will be floors, configurations, and time limits that will otherwise destroy you. You won't get to "do the content" because you'll wipe in the first five floors.
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    I'd also point out that requiring them to that extent screwed up the casual floors insanely; it's really easy to skip half of the floors just by using pom, which contributes to it feeling like a slog since you do very little that's actualy fun in it. Just pick up loot. Maybe next time they can evaluate pom usage and not make it so pivotal. I mean it still was in POTD, but it seemed to be used more for dealing with crisises that you couldn't do with smart play. Here it seems absolutely vital.
    Pomenders were just as vital in PotD. If you didn't have a healthy stock of them going into floor 181, you were dead. Chimeras have long horrified PotD runners.
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    Player CorbinDallas's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Pomenders were just as vital in PotD. If you didn't have a healthy stock of them going into floor 181, you were dead. Chimeras have long horrified PotD runners.
    At least the chimeras this time around aren't patrols and a much more manageable to deal with. :P
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