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    Bacent Rekkes
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    Only way to counteract bots is to make everything in the game untradeable, and having a queue system where you were put into parties at random and couldn't do anything in a premade group. But then you have a terrible game.

    They used to be very visible at the start of the game, including spamming the /shout chat so it was basically unusable. Now bots tend to only spam certain gil selling sites around main hubs, and they warp around underground to do MSQ stuff, always as blm lalafell
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    Saito Hikari
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacent View Post
    Only way to counteract bots is to make everything in the game untradeable, and having a queue system where you were put into parties at random and couldn't do anything in a premade group. But then you have a terrible game.

    They used to be very visible at the start of the game, including spamming the /shout chat so it was basically unusable. Now bots tend to only spam certain gil selling sites around main hubs, and they warp around underground to do MSQ stuff, always as blm lalafell
    They used to be able to spam /tells as well. It was so bad that I knew plenty of PC players that actually downloaded a third party program known as Guildwork to completely block tells if they contained certain keywords or phrases set by the player. Shortly before Stormblood release, the SE staff disabled the ability for trial accounts to send /tells, which appears to have completely destroyed that intrusive advertising method. The creator of Guildwork hasn't updated the program since (and it no longer works for FF14 as far as I know), likely because the primary function is no longer needed.

    I think that recently, the devs might have disabled their ability to send messages in /say as well, judging from the amount of players in Brayflox and below dungeons who don't type back when others ask them questions/try to give them advice regarding their skill usage, but the players are clearly behaving/gesturing as if they are listening. I haven't actually seen any bots advertising /say messages in Limsa as of late, unless they stopped advertising in Sargatanas entirely. These days, I only ever see adverts from trolls/moles in novice network inviting advert bots in before said bots are swiftly booted out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaitoHikari View Post
    I haven't actually seen any bots advertising /say messages in Limsa as of late, unless they stopped advertising in Sargatanas entirely. These days, I only ever see adverts from trolls/moles in novice network inviting advert bots in before said bots are swiftly booted out.
    At least on Cactaur there's bots in Limsa hiding underneath the market board that still advertise via /say. They also speak proper English unlike the guys spamming shout chat so I'd assume they're a US group.

    I've noticed there's two distinct groups of gil farm bots, as well. One is all Lalafells that use pure gibberish names, while there's another group that's all Hyurs who use names that incorporate random words in the gibberish.
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    At least on Cactaur there's bots in Limsa hiding underneath the market board that still advertise via /say. They also speak proper English unlike the guys spamming shout chat so I'd assume they're a US group.

    I've noticed there's two distinct groups of gil farm bots, as well. One is all Lalafells that use pure gibberish names, while there's another group that's all Hyurs who use names that incorporate random words in the gibberish.
    That's exactly like on Excalibur, except the bots are behind the FC chest's in Ul'dah - Steps of Nald, and New Gridania. I haven't been able to locate them in Limsa Lominsa but it makes me think that they're all using the same bot software and there's at least three different bots.
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    Saito Hikari
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    At least on Cactaur there's bots in Limsa hiding underneath the market board that still advertise via /say. They also speak proper English unlike the guys spamming shout chat so I'd assume they're a US group.

    I've noticed there's two distinct groups of gil farm bots, as well. One is all Lalafells that use pure gibberish names, while there's another group that's all Hyurs who use names that incorporate random words in the gibberish.
    Right, so it seems more like they just stopped advertising entirely in Sarg (outside of the douchebag that keeps inviting bots into the novice network). Curious.
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    X'lota Qi
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaitoHikari View Post
    They used to be able to spam /tells as well. It was so bad that I knew plenty of PC players that actually downloaded a third party program known as Guildwork to completely block tells if they contained certain keywords or phrases set by the player. Shortly before Stormblood release, the SE staff disabled the ability for trial accounts to send /tells, which appears to have completely destroyed that intrusive advertising method. The creator of Guildwork hasn't updated the program since (and it no longer works for FF14 as far as I know), likely because the primary function is no longer needed.

    I think that recently, the devs might have disabled their ability to send messages in /say as well, judging from the amount of players in Brayflox and below dungeons who don't type back when others ask them questions/try to give them advice regarding their skill usage, but the players are clearly behaving/gesturing as if they are listening. I haven't actually seen any bots advertising /say messages in Limsa as of late, unless they stopped advertising in Sargatanas entirely. These days, I only ever see adverts from trolls/moles in novice network inviting advert bots in before said bots are swiftly booted out.
    People on trial accounts can't use /tell. They also can't shout, trade, or use the market board. Just because people don't respond to a tell doesn't mean they are a bot. Paying players ignore unwelcome advice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsQi View Post
    People on trial accounts can't use /tell. They also can't shout, trade, or use the market board.
    If they really can't use /shout, that means that all the spammers that show up Limsa are paid accounts.

    I feel like they have to be getting these accounts for free somehow, whether through credit card fraud or some other means because I seriously doubt they actually sell enough gil to cover the sub fees for several thousand bots on a weekly basis.
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    Summoner Lv 62
    Quote Originally Posted by SaitoHikari View Post
    They used to be able to spam /tells as well. It was so bad that I knew plenty of PC players that actually downloaded a third party program known as Guildwork to completely block tells if they contained certain keywords or phrases set by the player. Shortly before Stormblood release, the SE staff disabled the ability for trial accounts to send /tells, which appears to have completely destroyed that intrusive advertising method. The creator of Guildwork hasn't updated the program since (and it no longer works for FF14 as far as I know), likely because the primary function is no longer needed.

    I think that recently, the devs might have disabled their ability to send messages in /say as well, judging from the amount of players in Brayflox and below dungeons who don't type back when others ask them questions/try to give them advice regarding their skill usage, but the players are clearly behaving/gesturing as if they are listening. I haven't actually seen any bots advertising /say messages in Limsa as of late, unless they stopped advertising in Sargatanas entirely. These days, I only ever see adverts from trolls/moles in novice network inviting advert bots in before said bots are swiftly booted out.
    /Say is definitely possible during trial and I've seen advertisements on /Say before.
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SaitoHikari View Post
    I think that recently, the devs might have disabled their ability to send messages in /say as well, judging from the amount of players in Brayflox and below dungeons who don't type back when others ask them questions/try to give them advice regarding their skill usage, but the players are clearly behaving/gesturing as if they are listening.
    I'd certainly hope they don't disable /say for trial accounts! It's prettymuch all they have. It was terrible as a new player not being able to respond to people who sent me tells. (Even /r to reply is disabled.) I'd have to try to find the person in-game so I could speak to them within hearing range.

    People "listening but not responding" might just be PS4 players without a keyboard connected.
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