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  1. #21
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    InkstainedGwyn's Avatar
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    Souji Hanamura
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    What they fail to realise with the squadrons is that we have no connection to these people, no reason to care about them. The most we get is a funny outfit with some, they all have recycled "reasons" and nobody has a backstory. Why would I want to adventure with sliced-bread-adventurer-#27? Retainers, we've customised. NPCs from the MSQ, we have 'relationships' with, like companions in SWtOR. That's so much nicer than "glamour plate mage au ra girl".
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  2. #22
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    Stormfur's Avatar
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    Hex Pathcrosser
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 72
    Exactly. If I could leave my squadron to rot in the Thousand-Maws-of-Oh-God-Not-This-Again, I absolutely would. I have no connection to them and they can't be customized as much as retainers, therefore, I have no reason to care about them.
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    "We want bunny suits for guys!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Ishgard housing!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Viera!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Cloud's motorcycle!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Blue Mage!"-- OK! ✅
    "We want the ability to earn past Feast rewards!" - HAHA no that's sacred.

  3. #23
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    Remedi Maxwell
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    Maybe they wanted to keep it at a military level by design but I agree with both of you
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  4. #24
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    InkstainedGwyn's Avatar
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    Souji Hanamura
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    I could even get with keeping the military style if they actually gave us some quests involving our squadron where we got to interact with them. I'd prefer retainers, but... it would at least be better than what we have.
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  5. #25
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    Judy Hopps
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    Excalibur
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    No one cares about what the game sounds like when it crashes from your cat pulling your headphone jack out of the computer. They just need to suck it up and fix that already. If you can do device swapping on stuff that does bitperfect output control like foobar then you should be able to do it in the game which I can just about guarantee has compressed audio. Even if it is lossless no one really cares since most headsets people use are awful sounding anyway and they probably can't hear the difference.
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    Last edited by enthauptet; 07-11-2018 at 06:36 AM.

  6. #26
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    Remedi's Avatar
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    Remedi Maxwell
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    Cerberus
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by InkstainedGwyn View Post
    I could even get with keeping the military style if they actually gave us some quests involving our squadron where we got to interact with them. I'd prefer retainers, but... it would at least be better than what we have.
    That's actually a pretty good idea, considering that have the teach for those mini side stories in the enclave and eureka I think they could use them for squadrons
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  7. #27
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    Sari Mogari
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    q: can we get thing
    a: shut
    Literally every session at this point.
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  8. #28
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    Naiyah Nanaya
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    Diabolos
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    It's not so much them not accepting the suggestion, but the reasons given to it. As this point I legit would've preferred answers where they outright just say no and give a generic answer of "too much in the pipeline".
    You and I both know full well that even if SE gave flat no’s that people would demand to know why anyway. And a no without reason is arguably worse than an unsatisfactory explanation.

    Mostly the problem is SE gives reasonable answers and most players simply don’t understand the technical jargon and how difficult programming can be at the core, especially if you’ve already coded yourself into a corner.
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  9. #29
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    Lho Polaali
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElHeggunte View Post
    Mostly the problem is SE gives reasonable answers and most players simply don’t understand the technical jargon and how difficult programming can be at the core, especially if you’ve already coded yourself into a corner.
    That's a can of worms in and of itself. Sympathy towards their rise from the ashes of 1.0 runs thin when we're several years later but the game is still held back so royally by that code, worse still if it's new code they introduced since that could've been hypothetically better but isn't. That's where they lost many of us who do know the first thing about coding, too.
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    Last edited by BillyKaplan; 07-11-2018 at 08:55 PM.

  10. #30
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    Remedi Maxwell
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    But isn't then the problem the sympathy given in the first place? I mean I know that the rise was miracolous but the game had many problems at launch besides the spaghetti code
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