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  1. #291
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    Deathrose88's Avatar
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    Etheria Highruler
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    Siren
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    Summoner Lv 70
    If they do go this healer route I sure hope your right... frankly not a fan of be a healer of any kind but if it still feels like a dps in the end fine I suppose I can try and support it but it will still have to feel like that aggressive dps I will forever play it as regardless.
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  2. #292
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    Gemina's Avatar
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Optimization of our current healers has them rely on regens and ogcds to do the bulk of their healing to maximize DPS uptime. There are definitely times where all three of them feel like just another DPS role in the group. However, at the end of the day they are still healers and will be required to do so when the group is taking damage, and also have to abide to healer specific mechanics in battle.

    Because there really are no mechanics to it other than smash button X while keeping up DoTs, DPSing as healer can feel a bit brainless. This is where I think DNC can switch things up. AST has its cards; SCH has their fairy, and WHM is the straight forward healer. DNC can implement the combos through their dances and flashy DPS skills. Make those DPS combos a requirement to execute those elegant dance moves that provide utility to the group and/or pump up their healing and damage potencies.

    I can tell you like the job though and want it in the game. If it is brought in, I do hope you can find enjoyment in it no matter what role it ends up being.
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  3. #293
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    dinnertime's Avatar
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    Aurelius Lyon
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    Balmung
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    Summoner Lv 90
    I think they'll go with what's popular demand, coming from SB. So that's definitely Dancer and Blue Mage. Then there's Beastmaster, Geomancer, Mystic Knight, Chemist (would probably get renamed), or they'll just make an FFXIV 'original' job like "Gunblade" which they'll probably call Magitek Knight or something.

    Honestly I don't care as long as they're well-designed, balanced and fun because the new jobs we've had since ARR had glaring problems.
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  4. #294
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    ImDingDing's Avatar
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    Dingding Ding
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 80
    Tank with a 2-hand hammer, whatever it is.
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  5. #295
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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by dinnertime View Post
    I think they'll go with what's popular demand, coming from SB. So that's definitely Dancer and Blue Mage. Then there's Beastmaster, Geomancer, Mystic Knight, Chemist (would probably get renamed), or they'll just make an FFXIV 'original' job like "Gunblade" which they'll probably call Magitek Knight or something.

    Honestly I don't care as long as they're well-designed, balanced and fun because the new jobs we've had since ARR had glaring problems.
    Sadly, we didn't get a healer or tank in HW because the developers said they wanted to balance the ones they had. Both roes were a mess at HW launch with clear favorites with questionable abilities.
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  6. #296
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    SargentToughie's Avatar
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    Lana Arunika
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    Balmung
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Sadly, we didn't get a healer or tank in HW because the developers said they wanted to balance the ones they had. Both roes were a mess at HW launch with clear favorites with questionable abilities.
    Yeah, I agree. Balance of the tanks has been really sketchy all through SB, with PLD being definitively the best, WAR having party utility duct taped to it's skin to be useful after having been uberbuffed and reworked, and DRK needing 6ish months to be reworked to a state that will placate the ones that are complaining about it. Hopefully 5.0 will be able to better balance the jobs we have.

    Wait, which expansion were we talking about again?
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  7. #297
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    Lord_Umbra's Avatar
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    Umitu Umbra
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    Tonberry
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by dinnertime View Post
    or they'll just make an FFXIV 'original' job like "Gunblade" which they'll probably call Magitek Knight or something.
    That'll more than likely be what MCH becomes in 5.0 possible with teacher being you know who.
    Dancer would be interesting if doesn't have MNKs level of positional's/stacks if does rip it as a healer."add though I feel if we get healer DNC it would level with MNK like SMN/SCH, due job similarities.
    Personally want Garlean Jobs like Judge especially since love Judges Armour.
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  8. #298
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    Gemina's Avatar
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by dinnertime View Post
    I think they'll go with what's popular demand, coming from SB. So that's definitely Dancer and Blue Mage. Then there's Beastmaster, Geomancer, Mystic Knight, Chemist (would probably get renamed), or they'll just make an FFXIV 'original' job like "Gunblade" which they'll probably call Magitek Knight or something.

    Honestly I don't care as long as they're well-designed, balanced and fun because the new jobs we've had since ARR had glaring problems.
    Funny thing about BST (and I know many won't agree with me on this) is that I think it could actually be made into another DoL class. But it wouldn't be a pushover like the current DoL classes. This one can and needs to fight outworld mobs to work. It can be designed in a way to make gathering 'kill-mats' (skins, blood, wings, fangs, etc.) far more efficient than with a retainer or hunting with a DoW/DoM class.

    Crap! I think this just might be the best idea I've ever posted on these forums. Why isn't this already a thing?! lol
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  9. #299
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    Jandor's Avatar
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    Tal Young
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    Cerberus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SargentToughie View Post
    Yeah, I agree. Balance of the tanks has been really sketchy all through SB
    Tank balance is better in SB than it was in HW.

    Dark Knight lags behind a little bit, but it's nowhere near as bad as Paladin was in HW.
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  10. #300
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    Remedi's Avatar
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    Remedi Maxwell
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    Cerberus
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Funny thing about BST (and I know many won't agree with me on this) is that I think it could actually be made into another DoL class. But it wouldn't be a pushover like the current DoL classes. This one can and needs to fight outworld mobs to work. It can be designed in a way to make gathering 'kill-mats' (skins, blood, wings, fangs, etc.) far more efficient than with a retainer or hunting with a DoW/DoM class.

    Crap! I think this just might be the best idea I've ever posted on these forums. Why isn't this already a thing?! lol
    There was a thought about a herder type class so you could create cheese and other things, so they kinda went in that way, but it was before HW I think
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