As someone who traps a ton, can confirm most people look at Sam/blams with a healthy amount of skepticism.
While you never know what you're getting, at least with other jobs you know they have buttons to push that make you better too.


As someone who traps a ton, can confirm most people look at Sam/blams with a healthy amount of skepticism.
While you never know what you're getting, at least with other jobs you know they have buttons to push that make you better too.
To be fair, isn't that the majority of pf jobs in general? Bards who don't keep songs up, ninjas who drift TA time, tanks who never leave tank stance, healers that don't dps, ect. They might bring some buffs but it still hurts almost the same.
It's just easier to notice when a pure dps job isn't performing well because you can just look if they're #1 on damage or not. But at the end of the day, pf crowds are almost always a nightmare.
Last edited by Zerathor; 07-06-2018 at 09:11 PM.

This 100%, it's alot easier to look at a parser and view the contributions of the pure dps than the dps with potential utilityTo be fair, isn't that the majority of pf jobs in general? Bards who don't keep songs up, ninjas who drift TA time, tanks who never leave tank stance, healers that don't dps, ect. They might bring some buffs but it still hurts almost the same.
It's just easier to notice when a pure dps job isn't performing well because you can just look if they're #1 on damage or not. But at the end of the day, pf crowds are almost always a nightmare.
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People that care about parse runs... tend to notice when their own parse loses some hundreds of DPS because they aren't getting buffs. They're looking at their own historical data more than the DPS of others in their party.
People who are doing good parse runs, typically avoid pf in the first place.
Besides, which spells crit/dhcrit and where your procs are at typically weighed in much more significantly than party buffs for me. Or which cards your astro draws. Dps drifting 100 or so isn't that unexpected.
Last edited by Zerathor; 07-13-2018 at 09:43 PM.



People that have a meta static, sure. There definitely seems to be a lot of people that don't, though, and so must rely on PF.People who are doing good parse runs, typically avoid pf in the first place.
Besides, which spells crit/dhcrit and where your procs are at typically weighed in much more significantly than party buffs for me. Or which cards your astro draws. Dps drifting 100 or so isn't that unexpected.
And, yeah, BLM isn't going to benefit from the many physical-only (de)buffs.
Battle voice, foe, bard crit aura, battle litany, eye tether, trick attack, chain, ballance, arrow, contagion, ect. All effect blm. There are very few phys only debuffs and they're just flat target weaknesses that are always on





There are only two raid buffs that only affect physical damage: Brotherhood and Embolden. BLM benefits from all other major raid buffs that Zerathor listed.
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