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    bidaum92's Avatar
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    Madam Bidaum
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Fair enough. But your suggested change to SotL returns it to an RNG based mechanic which is what drove people crazy when it was introduced. While the amount of regen ticks would likely ensure you get lilies, the abilities tied to them might not be available when you need/want them. If you can still force a proc with cure 1/2 then I can see this as being a QoL change. I think many WHM still just want to see SotL 1 and 2 reworked.
    Once again at high end raiding a WHM will use Cure1/2 very very sparecly.. like.. at most 2-3 times a fight. That is what annoyed people the most. They had a job gauge that was RNG AND tied to a spell that is hardly uses. However Medica 2 and Regen are both up almost constantly.

    And none of WHM abilities rely on the lillies. The lilies are just a added bonus to reduce the CD slightly of these abilities. Being able to force a proc of a Lily from Cure1/2 is basically a waste of a GCD and the proc in it's current form. Getting a chance proc from stuff you do use though.. that's more noticeable
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    Last edited by bidaum92; 07-06-2018 at 04:36 AM.

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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by bidaum92 View Post
    Once again at high end raiding a WHM will use Cure1/2 very very sparecly.. like.. at most 2-3 times a fight. That is what annoyed people the most. They had a job gauge that was RNG AND tied to a spell that is hardly uses. However Medica 2 and Regen are both up almost constantly.

    And no WHM abilities rely on the lillies. The lilies are just a added bonus to reduce the CD slightly of these abilities. Being able to force a proc of a Lily from Cure1/2 is basically a waste of a GCD and the proc in it's current form.
    What does high end raiding have to do with it? An experienced WHM is going to rely on ogcds and regens to do the bulk of their healing in any content. That's how you optimize it, and high end raiding is not required to play your job optimally. When SotL was first released, only Cure 2 gave a 100% proc rate. Cure 1 was still RNG. Again though, your suggestion only returns the lily mechanic to RNG. I know where you're getting at, and want to take away having to use up a gcd to get a lily. But why not just have a regen cast proc a lily initially, while the ticks themselves are RNG for additional lilies?

    Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't Divine Benison require at least one lily to use? That's what my tooltip says. Otherwise it indeed just remains a passive ability you pay no mind to.
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't Divine Benison require at least one lily to use? That's what my tooltip says. Otherwise it indeed just remains a passive ability you pay no mind to.
    No longer. Benison is now lily-less, and it's a pretty decent part of WHM's kit.
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