Gender Bias in Character Creation

[alimdia]

I do wonder if the people who are still against male bunnies (because apparently all bunnies IRL are female) would also argue against male catboys if ARR didn't add them as playable.

[Jandor]

How do you feel about butt size sliders though?

Feels like they're more meme than serious request at this point.

Either way, we don't need them either.

[Gemina]

Wait. Do peeps really want a male bulge slider? Why? Are you trying to somehow show some kind of optimal fertility trait or something? Oh wait... the same can be said for breasts? Look, no one wants to see how well endowed you are. The RL females that zoom in on your junk are likely making fun of your insecurity while drooling at female Roe and Highlander chest sizes.

[KageTokage]

The Dead or Alive series are rated M/PEGI16, and they have jiggle physics.

I think the main reason that series earns its M rating was because it explicitly draws attention to its fanservice elements, the...generous physics included.

Games can usually get away with things like a bust slider and/or jiggle physics (Of which XIV has both, but to a more modest extent then a lot of other games) without pushing up the rating if they're not being obviously marketed for the sexuality and avoid drawing too much attention to them through things like convenient camera angles and such.

What TC wants is basically never featured outside M/A rated games, though.

[ErryK]

At least put in the least bit effort of giving a counterargument. "Strawman" is better than "zero" by an infinity (though...it's not even that, that's what all languages in existence always were based on).

I don't need to put a counterargument when you literally just made a post going on an entire tangent that had nothing to do with the original point, let alone being completely untrue.

But fine, I'll humor you.

There are male bunny suits. And there is obviously some level of attraction to the male bunny outfit if it has been asked about constantly at Fanfests, interviews and the like. Regardless of whether people wanted it masculine or feminine, they got it.

"Unappealing to the majority" only ever translates to "if you're not a female miqo'te or au ra, your opinion doesn't matter" in this game. That's just the truth, to be honest. I'm not trying to be shady but that is legitimately what it looks like to me when people request gear. And I'm glad people had to basically make a fuss about the male bunny gear because I am actually one of the individuals who appreciates the male bunny gear, not because it is feminine but because it introduces more options to male characters which this game sorely lacks.

Actually, there was a post or thread a while back that actually said 'the majority hate the male bunny outfit', except almost ALL the posts FOR the male bunny outfit were liked, while the ones against it maybe had one or two likes at most. Though that's skewed due to the fact that it is based off forum-goers rather than the entire playerbase.

My biggest issue however is that your post tried to pass off your own opinion as fact, when, at least on the forums, there's more people for the male bunny outfit than not.

[Paladinleeds]

And I'm glad people had to basically make a fuss about the male bunny gear because I am actually one of the individuals who appreciates the male bunny gear, not because it is feminine but because it introduces more options to male characters which this game sorely lacks.

This is the only reason I aren't a Roebro. There's so much bias towards the female characters in terms of glamour. If they fix it, I'll then probably end up with a fantasia addiction due to the fact I have some of the female eastern outfits (Lady, Beauty, and Faerie Tale). But yeah, another thing I'd want to see is thavnairian bustier set for males. Another option for males then (and admittedly one of my favourite glamour sets).

[Hestzhyen]

How do you feel about butt size sliders though?

I wish they were more than a joke request at this point. I don't stare at my character's rear all day but on the few occasions where I make an outfit that would show it off... there's nothing to appreciate. Butt sliders for all!

[BluntGamerChick]

I would rather see every male race get a muscles slider rather than a package slider. Unless you plan on rocking briefs or tight pants, a genitalia slider for male avatars would be more or less pointless.

actually i see quite a few male avatars running around in speedos or skimpy wear. What ever the reason i find it fun, visually enjoyable and funny as heck. In fact i was in a random group where i was paired with two guys and a girl all wearing the new bunny outfits with the fishnet stockings. The girl and the two guys were wearing them. Loved it. Made me laugh so hard. I just find it frustrating that in sexy wear, and or the armor that seems to act like a Boob booster, that the female avatars breasts are pushed up to their necks as part of that sexy look but the mens package is so flat they might as well be flat chested women. I mean if we are gonna makem look like male strippers lets do it right! LOL

[BluntGamerChick]

I wish they were more than a joke request at this point. I don't stare at my character's rear all day but on the few occasions where I make an outfit that would show it off... there's nothing to appreciate. Butt sliders for all!

YASS! Let me recreate my Cuban booty! LMAO and my hubbies cute bubble butt. My husband plays Au Ra and frankly, and much to my pride and adoration, He is blessed both front and back. Id love to have a little more of his attributes in the game.

[BluntGamerChick]

How do you feel about butt size sliders though?

LOVE IT! I say Heck Ya! I have a big ole Cuban booty and my husbands back side is firm and round, Ide LOVE to recreate that on our avatars. I would have made a Roegadyn female to have more of a booty but my husband insisted i make an Au Ra female to match with his Au Ra male.