How Do You Feel When Old Content Is Made Easier?

[Kewitt]

Nothing easier then over geared and 20% echo...

On anything we needed to collect large amount of stuff. Changed to get more or 100%
Relic books should be reduced to 4 books one for each stats.

Eureka Crystals should be increased at this point.

[Anarnee]

I am fine with echo and outgearing, but when things are outright nerfed it annoys me.

[KeyboardFacerollname]

I'm fine with it. I don't care what pixels or what colour text someone else has. Other people's gear has zero effect on my enjoyment of the game.

[MistakeNot]

Because it eliminates the prestige. Which is one of the biggest driving forces of the human race.

It's like owning an Aston Martin for example quite prestigious normally... doesn't mean avthingbif the entire stat owns one...

Prestige is a massive human motivator. Because it's something virtually everyone seeking one form or another

That assumes other people care. When it comes to in-game achievments they don't care.
Nobody cares if you beat Coil when it was brand-new and the hardest thing in the game, or if you did it unsynced and just skipped all mechanics. Or if you haven't done it at all.

In short, there is no prestige involved - because nobody cares what other people have done or not done.

[Lambdafish]

Unsync was the worst thing to ever happen to this game

[TaleraRistain]

Where the game needs to fix or adjust things is to have the "minimum ilevel" be the default setting until the content is cleared by everyone in the party.

This just means the new players will get kicked and never get to complete it. Veterans already rush new players through as it is. If the new players are holding them back, then many won't have any qualms about just removing the problem.

[KisaiTenshi]

This just means the new players will get kicked and never get to complete it. Veterans already rush new players through as it is. If the new players are holding them back, then many won't have any qualms about just removing the problem.

Remember why the change to the MSQ cutscene happened? If Veterans want to farm content, they're not going to do it via roulette DF.

There's always two issues at play here, the roulette rewards, and the difficulty not being equal for all content in that roulette. If you queue for ANY roulette, to get the reward, it should be the same difficulty for everyone, which means minimum ilevel or some difficulty level that actually reflects the initial release state of the content. If you don't want that, don't roulette. If everyone has cleared it and want to farm it, they shouldn't be doing so via roulette anyway.

[jameseoakes]

Remember why the change to the MSQ cutscene happened? If Veterans want to farm content, they're not going to do it via roulette DF.

There's always two issues at play here, the roulette rewards, and the difficulty not being equal for all content in that roulette. If you queue for ANY roulette, to get the reward, it should be the same difficulty for everyone, which means minimum ilevel or some difficulty level that actually reflects the initial release state of the content. If you don't want that, don't roulette. If everyone has cleared it and want to farm it, they shouldn't be doing so via roulette anyway.

This would probably kill a lot of content off as the roulettes would be rarely used if they went minimum ilevel.

[SinisterJoints]

They do alter the content. Echo is basically a nerf.

The problem with making content easier all the time is it destroys accomplishment, prestige and exclusivity of rewards.. All of which then destroy value of the content..

I don't get it. You're mad that someone is getting mounts/titles/glamour that you got 8 months ago? Cmon, give me a break. and Echo isn't basically anything, its to help those wiping LONG AFTER THE CONTENT IS RELEVANT! Honestly, you just sound like a stingy kid at this point.

[silentwindfr]

why i will care about old challenge? don't we must focus on the new one?
if people can more easily catch up, great for them, if i did beat this challenge when it did come out, that what is important, why care about what the other do?

content nerfed? why care? if you have already completed this content, why care that it was nerfed? it's OLD content, this game get new content every 3 month... you do realize the number of dungeon, quest, primal and raid we do have now? and it will not reduce, it will only increase.... if people must spend 1-2 month to train to run an old content, they are missing the new content... and well it's like create a wall between old player and new player...

anyway, i feel is more a trouble of ego than really content nerfed.... because people tend to forget that some content did get nerfed with reason, right T5 i look at you... if a content can only be pass by like 3-4% of the community that are super elite of doom... what the point? i means create content for carter only for 3-4% of the community is not really sane.... look at wildstar, when it did come out they didn't stop to say that the game was hardcore and that it was for hardcore player.... in the end they had to go free to play, because.... big news.... you don't run a mmo with 3-4% of the community.

allowing more people to complet old content is not a bad decision, hardcore can still complet it when it come out, before nerf, they even have the achievement with the date for prove it. instead to look at what other do.... focus on what you can do.

that why i have always feel this course at the first down is stupid.... what is important, is you can do the challenge or have the bragging right for this content? do, be the first to down a content will bring you anything? nothing... what is important, is do the challenge with your friend, your group.... hell, even do it with group not optimized... to push the challenge farer by going without food, without potion or without the perfect group....
the goal is to do the challenge, be proud of it, is natural, show to other that you have complete it with crazy formation is always insane, like when you had a group of healer with one tank complete some primal.... insane... i'm more amazed by people doing this, than the first down.

if people need that old content is simpler for beat them for see this content, great for them.... *shrugs* the important one is the challenge your group is willing to face.... not what the other group is doing.