Selling Ultimate Weapon Ultima Is Apparently Not Against the ToS

[Jijifli]

And? What is being done about this? Nada. So, why should anything be done about people selling runs? It all comes down to money or currency transfer. How will SE prove a rl cash payment from player to player? I don't support any of this, but for argument sake, throwing it out there for discussion. It actually would be nice to know what type of RMT is being dealt with during updates

The only RMT I'm pretty sure is even dealt with is the say chat spamming bots parked at MB's.

Buyers aren't banned at risk of losing costumers. Bots that farm the currency aren't banned because risk of losing customers. Seriously, look at the amount of pople they say they punish for botting? No where NEAR the amount of bots there are. I can count more bots I see in the daily on Balmung than bots they've banned since they started telling us how many.

So since nothing's being done about those, are gathering bots okay? is BUYING RMT okay, so long as it's not selling?

[KageTokage]

The only RMT I'm pretty sure is even dealt with is the say chat spamming bots parked at MB's.

Buyers aren't banned at risk of losing costumers. Bots that farm the currency aren't banned because risk of losing customers. Seriously, look at the amount of pople they say they punish for botting? No where NEAR the amount of bots there are. I can count more bots I see in the daily on Balmung than bots they've banned since they started telling us how many.

So since nothing's being done about those, are gathering bots okay? is BUYING RMT okay, so long as it's not selling?

I'm pretty sure they do ban the hacking gil-farming bots.

It's just the ones that actually matter and affect the game negatively on a wider scale like the DoL/H and PvP bots that don't get touched, probably for the reason you mentioned. They don't want to axe any devoted customers even if some of them are using these bots to RMT in a less obvious fashion.

[KisaiTenshi]

I'm pretty sure they do ban the hacking gil-farming bots.

It's just the ones that actually matter and affect the game negatively on a wider scale like the DoL/H and PvP bots that don't get touched, probably for the reason you mentioned. They don't want to axe any devoted customers even if some of them are using these bots to RMT in a less obvious fashion.

More likely they can't catch all the fish. At least not with the resources they have. To use the complete speeding ticket analogy. If they ban everyone who they suspect is cheating, they will have to ban all the raiders, and check every single one of them one by one. If you've ever been behind someone who sees a photo radar van or a pulled over police car, you'll know they see it, slam on the brakes and then go the correct speed for about a mile and then back to business as usual. You'll never see one cop with 50 cars pulled over. Just the people in the red cars, because they go faster /s.

In more than one instance out there, there's been a case of bulk-bans, followed by people screaming that they've been wrongfully caught. Well, no, they weren't wrongfully caught, they just ignored the flashing lights. If they were really wrongfully caught, the person who reviews this stuff would see they don't fit whatever pattern the bulk ban was designed for.

The one call center, we nicknamed the MDE (mass data entry) system "massively damaging errors", because on more than one case, we'd be told to do one thing, and then the "enforcement" by MDE would undo things, and the customer would complain about why something promised wasn't fixed or something fixed was unfixed.

At some point the cost of a mistake is more expensive than the cost of inaction. Hence manual review is more accurate, but so slow to be ineffective, where as a mass data event that isn't 100% perfect will create so much manual effort to undo that the initial MDE should have been rolled back, and to do that would rollback everyone on the server.

Anyway, SE needs to do more, these bots shouldn't be able to get to level 15, let alone 50, yet they stick around for a week and then disappear. The less obvious bots that players may be harder to distinguish between players dual-boxing, or two players on the same WiFi, so it's probably a lot harder to police.