Selling Ultimate Weapon Ultima Is Apparently Not Against the ToS

[Jijifli]

And? What is being done about this? Nada. So, why should anything be done about people selling runs? It all comes down to money or currency transfer. How will SE prove a rl cash payment from player to player? I don't support any of this, but for argument sake, throwing it out there for discussion. It actually would be nice to know what type of RMT is being dealt with during updates

The only RMT I'm pretty sure is even dealt with is the say chat spamming bots parked at MB's.

Buyers aren't banned at risk of losing costumers. Bots that farm the currency aren't banned because risk of losing customers. Seriously, look at the amount of pople they say they punish for botting? No where NEAR the amount of bots there are. I can count more bots I see in the daily on Balmung than bots they've banned since they started telling us how many.

So since nothing's being done about those, are gathering bots okay? is BUYING RMT okay, so long as it's not selling?

[KageTokage]

The only RMT I'm pretty sure is even dealt with is the say chat spamming bots parked at MB's.

Buyers aren't banned at risk of losing costumers. Bots that farm the currency aren't banned because risk of losing customers. Seriously, look at the amount of pople they say they punish for botting? No where NEAR the amount of bots there are. I can count more bots I see in the daily on Balmung than bots they've banned since they started telling us how many.

So since nothing's being done about those, are gathering bots okay? is BUYING RMT okay, so long as it's not selling?

I'm pretty sure they do ban the hacking gil-farming bots.

It's just the ones that actually matter and affect the game negatively on a wider scale like the DoL/H and PvP bots that don't get touched, probably for the reason you mentioned. They don't want to axe any devoted customers even if some of them are using these bots to RMT in a less obvious fashion.

[CreinCrein]

Account sharing is account sharing, persecute both equally or don't persecute it at all.

[Linx0r]

Do you pay your nephew to play on your account and beat content for you? Read what I said.

Of course I don’t. You totally missed my point. Maybe you need to read over my post, but no need to be a prude in your replies. As well, everyone has a different moral compass. What you think is not ok others may deem ok. If rules aren’t being enforced then it’s all the same technically. What this is coming down to are differential morals and it’s not going to stop unless the are consequences. Obviously there isn’t. The inmates run this prison so watch your bunghole....unless you are into that sort of thing .

[Kurando]

I found this article about how Blizzard are going to deal with players using the PF (or Group Finder) to advertise sales of content etc in WoW. Eventually SE might need to consider doing something similar.

https://blizzardwatch.com/2018/07/02...inder-ads/amp/

[Aviars]

I found this article about how Blizzard are going to deal with players using the PF (or Group Finder) to advertise sales of content etc in WoW. Eventually SE might need to consider doing something similar.

https://blizzardwatch.com/2018/07/02...inder-ads/amp/

SE probably should do the same. Gil is a loophole for RMT. You can just advertise it for gil then make a deal for real money outside the game.

[Aviars]

They should just not allow the advertising period. Like I said gil is a convenient loophole for people who want to RMT.

And does such a thing harm the game as a whole? Preventing people from throwing money around to complete content?

By doing this you cripple the rmt that happens in the game while only making the cheaters angry. You are also taking steps towards making the people with completed content more credible.

Only good things come from doing this.

[Kurando]

Perhaps SE should just have a separate tab in the PF for people that want to sell content with Gil or in game items BUT the party cannot be cross world. As we all know you can't trade Gil that way, so directing buyers to discord etc clearly has RMT intentions.

[-BlueGreen-]

Here's the part that gets me about SE. They go and remind us of this: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...d5018ee8fc7b01

And in particular:

Should you witness actions related to RMT, such as advertisements within the game leading to external services via Say, Shout, Tell, and Yell, you can report them... To report RMT related actions outside of chat, you can visit the [Support Desk] menu

(emphasis mine)

By "outside of chat", I'd think the party finder is the main thing they're talking about, although they're probably using broad wording to cover any other cases. Discord counts as an external service, doesn't it? Couldn't the "Special Task Force" simply run a kind of sting operation? Just pose as a player trying to buy a run, follow the Discord info from the PF, and the moment RMT is discussed, bring down the ban hammer?

[KisaiTenshi]

Perhaps SE should just have a separate tab in the PF for people that want to sell content with Gil or in game items BUT the party cannot be cross world. As we all know you can't trade Gil that way, so directing buyers to discord etc clearly has RMT intentions.

No advertising should be permitted at all, anywhere. Especially not the PF. It should also be a reportable thing for all chat channels.

If you want to advertise your FC, SE should turn the quest board at the GC area into that. Move the actual hunt quests to the board inside the adventurer's guild/inn like it is in Ishgard and Kugane. Any FC that has both existed for 30 days, and has at least 8 active members in the last 30 days would be listed. Same with Linkshells. Owners who make their FC or linkshell "closed" will not be searchable. FC's with links in their description that do not go to whitelisted url's will not be shown in results.