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    Gender Bias in Character Creation

    This is Part for Fun and Part serious suggestion. I recently read an article that talked about how the MMO Conan Exiles has included slide bar sizing of Male avatars for their naughty bits. Now I've always thought it very sexist that there is a size selection for breasts in MMO's but men's groins are fixed. I figured games were just unwilling to go there but now since CE has decided to level the playing field I honestly and wholeheartedly endorse that FF14 show gender equality. Sizing for one and not the other is sexists. So why not provide sizing for Male Avatars too? I Applaud the sexy outfits provided for the males but frankly without adequate equipment it might as well be a flat chested female avatar. LOL!
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    A mans groin isn't really the male equivalent of a woman's chest. It isn't sexist to have a slider for one but not the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    A mans groin isn't really the male equivalent of a woman's chest. It isn't sexist to have a slider for one but not the other.
    Really? So your telling me that when you see a woman you don't immediately or within a few seconds take in the size of a woman's breast? And don't play the genitalia card because a woman's breasts are very sexualized. In fashion, magazines, TV, Movies, Anime and so on. A woman's Breasts are one of the defining and most obvious attribute that singles out the female gender. If your telling me that you don't take notice of a womans chest, effectively sexualizing that part, then your bold faced lying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BluntGamerChick View Post
    Really? So your telling me that when you see a woman you don't immediately or within a few seconds take in the size of a woman's breast? And don't play the genitalia card because a woman's breasts are very sexualized. In fashion, magazines, TV, Movies, Anime and so on. A woman's Breasts are one of the defining and most obvious attribute that singles out the female gender. If your telling me that you don't take notice of a womans chest, effectively sexualizing that part, then your bold faced lying.
    We have sliders for very obvious physical characteristics, things like height, muscle definition, and of course, breasts. A woman's breasts are much more obvious than the average mans groin, therefore we have breast sliders in games, but not groin sliders.

    It isn't, directly at least, a matter of sexiness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    We have sliders for very obvious physical characteristics, things like height, muscle definition, and of course, breasts. A woman's breasts are much more obvious than the average mans groin, therefore we have breast sliders in games, but not groin sliders.

    It isn't, directly at least, a matter of sexiness.
    Groin sliders could also very well push this game’s T rating up to M.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Groin sliders could also very well push this game’s T rating up to M.
    And dependent on how far they go down the rabbit hole, it could get blocked from sites like Twitch and Mixer. Remember HuniePop? They had to release a censored version to have it allowed on Twitch. The uncensored version? That's a ban right off the bat if you're caught streaming that.
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    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    We have sliders for very obvious physical characteristics, things like height, muscle definition, and of course, breasts. A woman's breasts are much more obvious than the average mans groin, therefore we have breast sliders in games, but not groin sliders.

    It isn't, directly at least, a matter of sexiness.
    Uh huh, which is why female avatars have the monopoly on running around half naked wearing normal gear in any online game. And if a mans groin is not connected to an over all sexy look stripper groups like Thunder Down Under and the Broadway Bares All shows would not be as popular. Make no mistake women are just as naughty as men and when it comes to that part, despite what we say to ease your fragile egos, SIZE MATTERS! LMAO. OH! And IT DOESN'T HAPPEN TO EVERY GUYS AND IT IS A BIG DEAL! LOL!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BluntGamerChick View Post
    And if a mans groin is not connected to an over all sexy look stripper groups like Thunder Down Under and the Broadway Bares All shows would not be as popular.
    I mean... I’ve never heard of either of these, but a quick Google search shows attention not on the mens’ crotch area, but rather their ripped torsos... Personally, I don’t find emphasis on a man’s crotch all that appealing. /shrug

    Equal opportunity here would be more muscle sliders. Groin sliders would just cause this game to be rated M.

    I’m also just... really confused. There are mentions of sexism and objectifying women, but a lot of your remarks are objectifying men in the same way you’re saying breast sliders objectify women. Like...what even is this thread. ._.’’
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    Quote Originally Posted by BluntGamerChick View Post
    Uh huh, which is why female avatars have the monopoly on running around half naked wearing normal gear in any online game. And if a mans groin is not connected to an over all sexy look stripper groups like Thunder Down Under and the Broadway Bares All shows would not be as popular. Make no mistake women are just as naughty as men and when it comes to that part, despite what we say to ease your fragile egos, SIZE MATTERS! LMAO. OH! And IT DOESN'T HAPPEN TO EVERY GUYS AND IT IS A BIG DEAL! LOL!
    It sounds like you just want bigger bulges in general, the slider request is starting to come across as a bit of an afterthought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BluntGamerChick View Post
    Really? So your telling me that when you see a woman you don't immediately or within a few seconds take in the size of a woman's breast? And don't play the genitalia card because a woman's breasts are very sexualized. In fashion, magazines, TV, Movies, Anime and so on. A woman's Breasts are one of the defining and most obvious attribute that singles out the female gender. If your telling me that you don't take notice of a womans chest, effectively sexualizing that part, then your bold faced lying.
    Uh...I don't particularly notice other women's chests or sexualize them simply because I am one...I have a chest...it's nothing special like you guys keep making it out to be. Seriously, they're not magical portals or anything, once you've seen one chest, you've seen them all essentially...especially when I have to look at mine everyday to shower. :P

    It's about the same if you were a guy and had to look at your own groin all of the time (although most men don't want to see another man's junk usually and OF COURSE would absolutely prefer staring at a woman instead), you'll eventually come to terms that they're just parts of your body and not anything special. The only time you effectively notice them is if something goes horribly wrong.
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