Selling Ultimate Weapon Ultima Is Apparently Not Against the ToS

[Rubiss]

You know these RMT sellings aren't just about UWU and O8S, right? Those are just the ones they put in game.

People do sell accounts, accounts with full 70 everything. Accounts with enough item level to do savage. If I just joined the game, and found out about this, and of course am upset about it, would my opinion be invalidated because I just joined and didn't have a character with 70 everything?

That's what Rubiss's point is. Just because someone hasn't gone into UWU, doesn't mean their opinion on UWU RMT is not invalid. There are houses purchased with pure RMT money, denying people a house. But they don't have a house, so they can't comment on it I guess.

But what do I know. I haven't seen UWU so my opinion's worth less than someone who paid $1200 for it.

Beautiful. I truly have no idea why there are people who cannot understand my point. Asking me or anyone else "Why do you care?" or "You haven't done x, why should you care?" isn't even a question that's relevant. I could make a list of why I care but it would be met with "Well, I don't!" and I'd be like "Okay? But I, and others do so... point?"

[Bourne_Endeavor]

But the question remains, why is using an exploit worse?

Because an exploit getting traction will tempt people to try it themselves. Should it go unpunished, it will become increasingly widespread, which does impact the overall game. Look at all the complaints surrounding bots. SE's incompetency has allowed it become worse. While I don't necessarily agree with mercenary work, it comes with a price tag that will heavily deter the vast majority of people who either don't have the disposable cash or think it's utterly asinine to spend that kind of money on a weapon.

IMO SE should take a clear stance in this. If you dont want parser then punish everyone that uses it (especially if call outs make mechanics easier..)and if you dont do that you cant just turn around and punish some that are just talking about it in a random group without any attack. If you punish RMT then do it with every single RMT. Otherwise its just double standards.

Parsers are going nowhere. It would destroy their raid scene, and they know it. Not to mention, unless they install client side detection, people will get around it fairly easily. RMT, on the other hand, does hurt the actual game. Keep in mind, indifference does not mean all of us agree with RMT. I simply choose not to let myself be bothered by it when Square refuses to actually do much of anything.

[Doozer]

Damn shame. Pretty redheads should always be listened to.

I did young lady[...]

Not to be Off Topic but mate.... why do you talk like that. There's a time and a place to sound like some Seasoned Handsome Man or whatever, and this ain't one of them.

I don't have much else to add except... I don't know about anyone else, but I'd be pretty embarrassed if I had to pay someone to beat content for me, even if no one else knew. Having a pal help you out by carrying you through something where you just keep dying is one thing, but literally handing your account over to someone else is. Sad.

[Jijifli]

Bourne never said permanently banned.

And that's why people still did it. People think Ungarmax is the first case of game breaking? If they haven't hit at least 3+ day bans yet, they probably aren't gonna get perma'd. In which case, why're they so worried? Assuming these parties do these methods, when you consider the account sharing means the person might have to work with a non-meta job (oh no), that'd just make the easiest. So they abuse it, and let's say they got 10 buyers at $1200. Square notices, gives them a 9 day ban. Okay. And they just made 12 grand. I doubt they'd care they got suspended. Actually, they might not care if that gets terminated, they could just buy another account with full 360+.

[Doozer]

So they abuse it, and let's say they got 10 buyers at $1200.

Do people really pay $1200 for that? That's lunacy!

[Mixt]

You'd be surprised how much some people are willing to pay for fake bragging rights.

Buying a Ultimate win gives them an excuse to lord it over everyone else how much better they are, it goes roughly like "HAHA! I cleared Ultimate (Even though i actually didn't) That makes me awesome and better than you!"

Certain people will pay any price in order to look good.

And then the rest of the playerbase has to put up with their unjustified ego-tripping.
Even more obnoxius when they fail even basic mechanics in low tier content like 4-man dungeons or story trials and then blame everyone else because "I cleared Ultimate! I cannot fail! The rest of you noobs must be the ones at fault!"

[Doozer]

I guess they don't realize that doing something that may put you on a pedestal also comes with higher expectations. Goofing up your rotation or accidentally standing in an AoE is just whatever if you're some random schmuck. If you've got something that's prestigious that usually takes some skill or dedication to get, doing those dumb things is even worse. Got further to fall.

I'm personally not impressed by any flashy items or titles people have. But if you do have them, I expect you to act like you know what you're doing.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

You'd be surprised how much some people are willing to pay for fake bragging rights.

Buying a Ultimate win gives them an excuse to lord it over everyone else how much better they are, it goes roughly like "HAHA! I cleared Ultimate (Even though i actually didn't) That makes me awesome and better than you!"

This actually happens far less than you think. For one, sellers will rarely upload parses of their sale clears, thus it's very easy to find out if someone's lying about it. Likewise, sellers typically hate people who brag like this and some will outright reject offers from them afterwards. Regardless, people willing to spend this much money on clears is exceedingly rare. Hence why the prices are so high. There simply isn't a demand, which allows certain FCs to charge significantly more than they would be able to otherwise.

[RiyahArp]

I guess they don't realize that doing something that may put you on a pedestal also comes with higher expectations.

Apparently not, since world first fc's seem to think being common RMTs is ok. Not sure why people are mad at the buyers for bragging, when they'd have zero to brag about if the fcs just didn't sell anything at all.

[Nhadaly]

Apparently not, since world first fc's seem to think being common RMTs is ok. Not sure why people are mad at the buyers for bragging, when they'd have zero to brag about if the fcs just didn't sell anything at all.

Any person with half a brain cell thats decent at raiding can tell a bought run from a real run.

And even if they couldnt tell, its obvious from their play.