How Do You Feel When Old Content Is Made Easier?

[Fytayn]

The title says it all but I'll elaborate:

Arguments about older content being made easier, or less work, inevitably mention personal reasons against it. I'm not going to go over those here but they're often made by implying many people feel the same as the person making the argument. The problem is there's no way to know how widespread the opinion is.

So how do you feel? There's no need to use specific cases, or make an argument, I'm only asking for personal opinions. You don't need to justify yourself but if you want to then feel free.

Please don't attack people for their opinions.

[ArcaviusGreyashe]

Why would I mind ? The challenge is still there for everyonr willing to take it head on, but glamour/mounts/minions are available for everyone... That's a good thing.

[Luciano_Bozzelli]

I just feel like if things weren't nerfed quickly, we would see more party finders for this type of content because the vast majority of players would still need it cleared since they couldn't just face roll it.

So many things get beat so easily with higher levels that you kind of just forget certain things were in the game. Let alone who would queue for x dungeon when they can just queue up high level and solo.

[Vidu]

I would disagree with older content being made easier - it gets easier, yes, but not by actually altering the content.

In the events of actual nerfs, I'm usually not happy about it because I never felt that any of those nerfs removed something that couldnt have been handled with a little bit of brain-use. And I'm glad to see that encounters like Shinryu NM werent nerfed, despite people crying for it.

On the matter of content getting easier...
Thats mainly for three reasons, I'd say:
(1) overgearing the content
(2) Echo being added
(3) You, yourself, being better at the game now than you were when you tried that content for the first time - each time I solo/dou Titan EX now, I remember how difficult dodging landslides used to be for me. Moving the servers to Europe probably helped my lag-issues aswell, but I also know I just got better.
Unsyching content is obviously making content easier aswell, but I dont really consider unsyched and syched content to be the same fight.
That leaves us mainly with (1) and (2) - gear and Echo. Both are choices you make for yourself - you can run content at minimum ilvl. You can click off Echo.
If you want to, you can do all those fights at a similar difficulty level than 4 years ago - and I think thats a great thing! Not only that you're able to do that content the "right way", but that you have the choice not to do that if you dont want to.
I dont care that my Ramuh pony used to be rare, because the fight sucked.
I dont care wether or not someone earned their T13-title by doing the regular fight or by unsyching the content - and I dont care wether or not someone knows that I killed T13 two weeks before HW-release, still synched but with Echo.

I care about having fun and a challenge in the game - and I can have that, if I choose to.
But I can also understand if someone doesnt want that, but would still like to see the Coil-story for example.
As long as that person doesnt demand that I give up my option of making a challenge out of that content, I wont deny them their choice of facerolling it.

I dont agree with the cries for nerfs - I'm totally okay with outgearing and unsyching content if the person wishes to do that. Specially as long as we all have the option to do it "properly".
(Luckly, the devs dont seem to agree with the cries for nerfs either - just a reminder again that very few content actually got nerfed. Right now I can only think off AK, Pharos, Final Steps of Faith and the removal of adds in T5, T9 and T13 - I'm not a 100% certain on those anymore though... I might also be missing minor nerfs and adjustments - bottomline is: most content never saw any heavy, altering nerfs.)

[Hamada]

because things get "nerfed" or made eaiser so quickly, I do not care about spending time on something when it is hard. I simply craft or do my thing, and spend time on it later when it is eaiser. Why should I spend so much time on something when it is hard, when the only difference is a time sink? I got better things to do like take care of my daughter and other things then to worry about temp e-bragging rights.

[ManuelBravo]

They need to stop the nerfing -.- lowers the quality of players.

[Kai_Lee]

Nerfing is no bueno, but clearing old content because of echo or unsync is fine. Not a lot of ppl do old content and it's not a good thing or positive thing to force someone who hasn't clear xxx content to try to find 7 other ppl to try to clear xxx content because they came late or they were not around at the time the content was relevant.

[Vidu]

They need to stop the nerfing -.- lowers the quality of players.

Where do you get the idea from that they're significantly nerfing content?
They outright refused to nerf Shinryu NM, even if a lot of people cried for that.

What makes fights easier at a later point in the circle is better gear and eventually Echo - not altered mechanics of the fight itself.

Yes, some content has been nerfed - but the majority of the content hasnt been touched or adjusted. "Nerfing" content isnt really the mainfactor in low quality of player-skill - easy content to begin with is.

[ManuelBravo]

Where do you get the idea from that they're significantly nerfing content?
They outright refused to nerf Shinryu NM, even if a lot of people cried for that.

What makes fights easier at a later point in the circle is better gear and eventually Echo - not altered mechanics of the fight itself.

Yes, some content has been nerfed - but the majority of the content hasnt been touched or adjusted. "Nerfing" content isnt really the mainfactor in low quality of player-skill - easy content to begin with is.

Besides the fact that people are wiping in old content, can't follow simple mechanics, think they know their job and can't use Simple CD? As for shin really? It was pretty much main attacks from old Aions battles. If people think it's new then they must really not understand or put attention to battle mechanics. This is what happens when you remove XP penalty from games. Give them a trophy for just trying lol. Well it's not FFXI but hey this is a nice time killer guess we can only teach or put up with it. But carry people lol funny.

[Keridwyn]

Besides the fact that people are wiping in old content, can't follow simple mechanics...

Sometimes folks just don't know the old mechanics or the flow of the fight is disrupted because mechanics are skipped due to vastly outgearing the content.

Out and outright nerfs are always no buneo but unless you enforce minimum ilvl synch on old content eventually it gets trampled on. This is true of every MMO....even the ones that had XP loss.