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    Quote Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia View Post
    It's because everyone wants to make a WoW clone, are going for cash grabs or give players too much freedom and lack of direction. ESO I know is a whole lot busier than XIV, so its maybe its also where you look.

    There are a few games coming out soon that want to rewrite the ways mmo are done. Hopefully they will do it right. I know I already slapped down $300 for Ashes of Creation.... Its one of the few times I decided to take a chance on a game. Hopefully I'm not burned.
    ESO and GW2 are good examples of MMORPGs that at least trying to be innovative in some sorts. All others are WoW clones, including of course ffxiv and i think even in that regard ffxiv stagnation is even worse, considering WoW trying to change and shake things up every expansion, ffxiv is still yet to even try to change pace or innovate.
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    Indeed I have tons more fun and have more to do in ESO, ffxiv I am sticking with just because I have been here since beta v1 and its kindda just a thing in my life now. Having 2 side by side gaming PCs though I have ESO going on one and this on another so I can do things while I wait for queues and what not but I still spend most my time in Tamriel.

    SE I think does things well technically, but their creativity and innovation has taken a hit since they fell from the top in the early 2000s. They also are well behind in mmo basics, which is why I always question their actual mmo habits, it could be a cultural thing too though. I just don't know. Hopefully if they do another mmo they will refer to creative people with a passion for and lots of exp in playing mmos and wanna shake things up.
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    Depends what you define creativity. XIV is designed like a tv show production, all they care is getting the next episode or season in, plus extra merchandise and live performances here and there for marketing. This is probably my last mmo, I'm quite done with the quadruple money gates (not counting the concerts and SE store). As someone who bought my own games since I'm 8, I feel they trying to kill off the competitions by taking large portion of that budget with non-sense gates. 10 years ago I can buy 20 games with $20/month, decent ones. Still do, SE will have much better luck releasing proper single games than another MMO. All said, I think XIV is a much better polished/optimized than most MMOs around, even better than that crappy unoptimized XV junk. They just need to tweak more of the "Massive" part of MMO, focus on the per server worlds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia View Post
    There are a few games coming out soon that want to rewrite the ways mmo are done. Hopefully they will do it right. I know I already slapped down $300 for Ashes of Creation.... Its one of the few times I decided to take a chance on a game. Hopefully I'm not burned.
    *looks at pre-order pack scheme and chokes* Are those ships so people can sail alongside all the whales? Immediate turn-off for me. I do hope you get your money's worth though, that's a lot to fork over up front.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dustytome View Post
    *looks at pre-order pack scheme and chokes* Are those ships so people can sail alongside all the whales? Immediate turn-off for me. I do hope you get your money's worth though, that's a lot to fork over up front.
    I got access to alpha and beta tests, in game items, game store credit and I think half a year sub free with it. So part of that was kindda a paying up front thing, some was for access to the alpha/beta.

    Their transparency makes me more willing to spend money. And I am not a whale by any means lol. I get a few collectables here and there but things like the mog station are a waste of money imo. I don't even spend money on crowns in ESO, I use the ones I earn through my sub, since they match it dollar for dollar. Hell if I am buying stuff after paying a sub. I seldom roll the dice and even pre order a game much less pledge money to one in development so it was a big deal I did it at all lol
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    I would say that the current market has too many "MMO-style" games under the guise of a live service. Honestly I would rather see that they finish a story perfectly day 1 rather than having to patch it later ex FFXV final chapters. After playing God of War it just made me realize how little games can pull of a narrative from start to finish flawlessly in the current market. There is an over saturation of games that require daily login and personally have no time for another MMO. Gotta stop that gaming addiction at some point and I'm not getting younger and those bills aren't gonna pay themselves.
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    It would be cool but i don't think we are getting a new MMO anytime soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MageBlack View Post
    I told them to start making sequels to their older franchises rather than remakes or re-releases of the old ones. the Mana series, Chrono series, Draakenguard series
    Drakenguard 3 killed that franchise. It bombed, hard. Mana has had a ton of sequels, mostly in JP but secret of Mana itself was a sequel (to final fantasy adventure on the gameboy) and legends and heroes of mana were released here. ff12 had revenant wings, ff7 had dirge of cerebus, tactics had tactics advance and a2, even crystal chronicals had sequels. They tried a bit, but generally the games didn't catch on. I wonder if people even know if Parasite eve had a 3rd game in the series, if at that.

    Even when they try to do new stuff, it seems to be weird. I really liked world of final fantasy, but looking at all the unsold ps4 copies in local stores i must have been the only one. They tried to do that new 3ds final fantasy game, Final Fantasy explorers, died without a trace. Octopath traveler seems to be their new thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    Drakenguard 3 killed that franchise.
    The Sequel to Drakenguard is Neir, and Neir:Automata ... through the power of alternate endings.

    That said, I've only played Neir:Automata, and have Neir just sitting in my room, gathering dust because I can't be bothered to plug the Xbox 360 back in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    The idea intrigues me, but honestly I think at this point I'm a bit hesitant to try another MMO by SE.
    I honestly would not play another MMO from them, especially if it has a sub. And if they would do everything we wanted in FF14 in a new one I would just feel a bit ripped of. (Even if some make sense) Next to Kingdom Hearts I am not even sure if I want to buy any new game from this company..not after what they are doing with FF15 too.
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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