Doman Enclave changes (4.3)

[SinisterJoints]

Tenacity grade 5 materia is cheap and about 15-20 do the trick

[BillyKaplan]

I'd say that it's better than the GC turns-in

GC turn-ins are amazing if you're still leveling and give you GC seals too. Also achievement points, if there was anything to do with them after the Claw mount.
The Enclave gives money and less achievement points right now. As far as awards are concerned, it doesn't hold a candle to GC hand-ins imo.

Wanna make them give us a special tokens to use in the shops? Fine it could

The housing items are nice and the Sadu-minion item, but they'd need at least a couple of minions and a mount to be comparable to, say, beast tribe quests. Otherwise it's a waste of a token, and for pretty mindless content besides

, point is that they wanted to incentive this with a monetary reward and imho 20k is nothing when a single platinum allagan coin gives you 18k.

How easy it is to finish weekly and how good the return of investment is are the only things it has going for it compared to any other comparable form of content.

[silverlunarfox]

Not sure if anyone has noted this...

Demicrystals for poetics actually work great for this to add in with allagan pieces. It's not at all that difficult to contribute that way since the crystals are so cheap.

It's really not a grind compared to other grinds in this game.

[Ameela]

If you do roulettes daily and stockpile gear from dungeons you can meet the quota easily.

[Remedi]

GC turn-ins are amazing if you're still leveling and give you GC seals too. Also achievement points, if there was anything to do with them after the Claw mount.
The Enclave gives money and less achievement points right now. As far as awards are concerned, it doesn't hold a candle to GC hand-ins imo.



The housing items are nice and the Sadu-minion item, but they'd need at least a couple of minions and a mount to be comparable to, say, beast tribe quests. Otherwise it's a waste of a token, and for pretty mindless content besides



How easy it is to finish weekly and how good the return of investment is are the only things it has going for it compared to any other comparable form of content.

Look all valid points, cept one, the fact taht you say it's kept alive by the fact it can be done with demimaterias and allagan coins.

It's a personal objective it's not a collaborative one as such it's kept alive as much as squadrons are. Whatever you decide to do with this is your choice alone and doesn't really influences devs decision.

The fact is, that if it's supposed to be a personal objective to strive for, they should at least make it so that it's not something that you can forget about or beign as shallow as is. 20k gil is not really something hard to reach as many ppl have said I brought up the allagan platinum because that aloke is nearly enough to do it in 1 turn-in.
As things stands it's not really you can immerse yourself with, if you care for world buiulding content and it's time gate its the worst thing ever. Imho a daily thing would've been better not really a weekly one (this can apply to custom deliveries too btw).

The rest of the criticism of the rewards I agree, but I think it would be good to make this content feeling a bit more like it matters more than a 5 mins on tuesday thing, btw when I spoke about GC turns-in I meant the expert deliveries ones not the daily ones

[BillyKaplan]

As things stands it's not really you can immerse yourself with

Most content in the game doesn't let you immerse yourself with it. Even beast tribe quests very quickly become something you click your way through and finish in ten minutes a day. Difference is, they give me a lot more for my trouble. If they wanted to do proper world-building this is about the worst way they could've done it in. I can easily get 20k worth of items and gil running a side-quest chain that would've given me the same story. So in that case I suppose we agree even if for different reasons - this system is less than ideal.

if you care for world buiulding content and it's time gate its the worst thing ever.

Consider, though, what's even the world-building you're getting here? It's pretty minimal, the only thing giving it a pretense of volume is the wait. And given that they're, you know, building the place from scratch, the wait actually helps the illusion imo.

I meant the expert deliveries ones not the daily ones

Given that expert deliveries give me a fortune in GC seals, and GC seals hold items that are either exclusive or really hard to get otherwise, and are useful besides, my point still stands. It's better than this.

[Remedi]

That's why i'm saying that they should improve this content though.

I've shown a point that as of now this is a very forgetful content and they could make it better.
I mean what you say about the GC from the expert is true, I used them to say that we already have a similar system and that one works better also they don't limit yourself with 20k GC seals with

Maybe I should've mentioned that I wanted other parts to be done better in my first post, but I thought that was a given. That said I still think that if they wanted for us to get those 20k as a week long goal, with the existance of allagan coil and demimaterias they have missed the mark by a long shot

[BillyKaplan]

they don't limit yourself with 20k GC seals with

They limit you with 80k seals. Big cap but a cap nonetheless, and worse if you're lower rank.
I agree this content is kind of meh, but the solution isn't going to be blocking allagan pieces of any kind. As others mentioned, it's not difficult to cap on it even without the platinum pieces. The problem is the system itself, not how easy it is to cap.

[Deceptus]

Not sure if anyone has noted this...

Demicrystals for poetics actually work great for this to add in with allagan pieces. It's not at all that difficult to contribute that way since the crystals are so cheap.

It's really not a grind compared to other grinds in this game.

I bought a bunch of clear demi's 3s for under 10K and have been selling them at a profit. It's easy money. each week.

[Remedi]

They limit you with 80k seals. Big cap but a cap nonetheless, and worse if you're lower rank.
I agree this content is kind of meh, but the solution isn't going to be blocking allagan pieces of any kind. As others mentioned, it's not difficult to cap on it even without the platinum pieces. The problem is the system itself, not how easy it is to cap.

well they block you to earn more than 80k, but since you can spend them you can earn them limitless.

I'm not saying that it should be something like Luin city of ruin in tales of symphonia, but it should at least something I can work on and change the enviroment. I mean I like the idea, other maybe not, SE seems to be giving us more actions in the upgrades of settlements which is an interesting things.
However if they want to limit how fast we can progress each week at least 3-4 allagan platinum coil should be needed not 1 and 1 tier 3 demimaterias.

I agree that something in the system needs to change too ofc, but as said if they keep making mystakes like that with designs on contents problems like this will always pops up. You can weekly lock something that is cleared in 5 mins