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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
    "top 100 will earn a full set of armor as a reward. This equipment won't be available anywhere else,"
    I dunno man, it kinda feels like a reach when this sentence is your basis for SE GAVE US THEIR SOLEMN BLOODOATH THAT TOP 100 PVP REWARDS WILL FOREVER REMAIN EXCLUSIVE IN PERPETUITY..

    And yes, that's exactly the sort of combative and over-the-top vibe you've been putting out the last few posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emstidor View Post
    I dunno man, it kinda feels like a reach when this sentence is your basis for SE GAVE US THEIR SOLEMN BLOODOATH THAT TOP 100 PVP REWARDS WILL FOREVER REMAIN EXCLUSIVE IN PERPETUITY..

    And yes, that's exactly the sort of combative and over-the-top vibe you've been putting out the last few posts.
    Amusing. You should've looked at the page before where he "called" me out. And apparently I am being a bad guy? xd

    Should they have put it into their terms of service for you to believe words and actions? Why are you mentioning blood oaths as the only way to guarantee anything?

    Quote Originally Posted by Emstidor View Post
    Not to mention we literally have an example from just last week where a developer's blog post was amended due to containing incorrect (or unverified) information, so it's not like they're inviolable promises to the players or anything.
    Feast has been out for years. There should a point where you guys give up and accept the situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
    Feast has been out for years. There should a point where you guys give up and accept the situation.
    Bunny outfits say hello.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emstidor View Post
    Bunny outfits say hello.
    Legacy tatoos/chocobos say hello.

    Art contest rewards say hello.

    I can name many more.

    Your bunny outfit example literally only had restrictions to female characters not restrictions on people in general. Contests and time exclusive items claimed as such were kept exclusive to WINNERS and in the case of legacy perks, to players who played 1.0
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
    Legacy tatoos/chocobos say hello.

    Art contest rewards say hello.

    I can name many more.
    FFXIII Event
    Moogle outfit
    Maid outfit
    Veteran rewards

    And none of this covers rewards that were once either difficult or far more time consuming to obtain but were subsequently nerfed. Furthermore, the Legacy rewards were from an entirely separate game that no longer exists and the art content rewards frequently return. Simply put, everything either becomes easier or has lost its exclusivity... except PvP rewards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    FFXIII Event
    Moogle outfit
    Maid outfit
    Veteran rewards

    And none of this covers rewards that were once either difficult or far more time consuming to obtain but were subsequently nerfed. Furthermore, the Legacy rewards were from an entirely separate game that no longer exists and the art content rewards frequently return. Simply put, everything either becomes easier or has lost its exclusivity... except PvP rewards.
    Again, none of those are contest rewards.

    And you say legacy rewards are part of a different game. It's a reboot of the same game with rewards in the reboot.

    Also, isn't the art contest the only contest that gives out it's own rewards and never releases them to people outside of the contest? Oh I guess we need to release it to everyone because it doesn't conform to everything else in the game

    And if you only cared about time exclusives, then you wouldn't suggest that pvp rewards be given to anyone but top 100 players. Why not make it consistent with the art contest? Oh wait, that doesn't make it any easier to get top 100 does it.

    Anyways, we have already had this discussion where you don't like SE evolving their game. Should SE not have done Ultimate Coil or Weapon because it wasn't cookie cutter formula of 3 8 man raids and 3 24 man raids? Are you going to argue that SE shouldn't EVER do anything new in this game? I would think not.

    Also it is disturbing that people are WANTING SE to go back on their word.

    When #freeship apparently not freeshipping the community complains that the store operators were going back on their word. Yet everyone here is trying to make SE to make top 100 rewards for everyone. Maybe the community should be consistent in their actions more so than SE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
    Again, none of those are contest rewards.

    And you say legacy rewards are part of a different game. It's a reboot of the same game with rewards in the reboot.

    Also, isn't the art contest the only contest that gives out it's own rewards and never releases them to people outside of the contest? Oh I guess we need to release it to everyone because it doesn't conform to everything else in the game
    Don't twist my words. You keep arguing SE promotes exclusivity yet time and again they have deviated away from that formula. The aforementioned list demonstrates that very fact, whether you want to believe it or not. PvP has been the exception, not the rule.

    A reboot does not change the fact both are separate games, thus general perception has been to grandfather in the Legacy rewards, especially since the Chocobo and Gobbue have reskins available. And those content rewards have been made consistently available for years to those submitting their work. Furthermore, they offer those same rewards for all their contents, which negates your forthcoming argument regarding the top 100.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
    Anyways, we have already had this discussion where you don't like SE evolving their game. Should SE not have done Ultimate Coil or Weapon because it wasn't cookie cutter formula of 3 8 man raids and 3 24 man raids? Are you going to argue that SE shouldn't EVER do anything new in this game? I would think not.
    This comparable is so absurd it beggars belief. In what universe does Ultimate have to do with exclusive PvP rewards? Even going by your twisted logic, they have moved away from exclusive rewards in other areas even after the Hellhound released. There hasn't been an evolution, just an inconsistent due to desperation trying to get people to partake in PvP.

    But since even Ultimate weapons and the above mentioned Legacy Chocobo have reskins available. You wouldn't be opposed to reskins of PvP mounts being offering for everyone else now would you?
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