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    Quote Originally Posted by Gospel View Post
    All it says is that you get it from only doing Feast.
    "Our first sneak preview is the reward for placing in the top 100. This time around, the players ferocious enough to break into the top 100 will earn a full set of armor as a reward. This equipment won't be available anywhere else, so start sharpening your claws and fangs!"

    I mean, you say one thing and this says another. Top 100, won't available for anywhere else other than top 100.

    I love quotes. They are undeniable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/blog/002114.html

    Here they state the armor is for the top 100 players and you won't be able to get it anywhere else other than top 100. Pretty much spelled out.
    Then they simply have to re-color the armor or mount and call it something else and suddenly there is no promise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/blog/002114.html

    Here they state the armor is for the top 100 players and you won't be able to get it anywhere else other than top 100. Pretty much spelled out.

    There are many more blog posts similar to this one that clearly spell out that these rewards are for people that get top 100.

    Maybe you should try and do some research before calling people out. You are pretty much the only one who is denying that SE has said that these rewards are only for top 100 ranking players of those seasons they are offered.
    If the White Raven thread is any indicator of the general sentiment towards promises made by the Devs then don't bother using that argument. If the desire for glamour is there for people they'll disregard any tangible evidence towards the promise as long as the trophy can become available to them.

    Honestly considering they did say those are for the Top 100 players then I will have to agree with others defending this decision. The promise itself was made and it doesn't matter how much time goes by between its inception and its end, the devs promised to keep it locked behind some kind of effort and. Don't get me wrong, I do think some of the more competitive Feast rewards are neat and I would love to have myself but I will acknowledge that if I don't put in the effort to get them then I shouldn't hold out for Devs to turn their backs on those who did for my own gratification.

    I would honestly rather they fix the broken PvP system and how many people tend to pull Alts and such into the Top 100 rather than just going free for all. I think thats the main issue overall with competitive Feast at the moment outside of the gutted rework of PvP that failed to draw in any kind of tangible crowd. Anyways as it stands the Devs will eventually go back on their word as they have multiple times, not a matter of "if" but of "when".
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    Yeah, it can't really get more spelled out than the post Aviars linked.
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    Not to mention we literally have an example from just last week where a developer's blog post was amended due to containing incorrect (or unverified) information, so it's not like they're inviolable promises to the players or anything.
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    So because SE didn't oblige every request that's been made, it invalidates the cases where they DID listen to player feedback? That's pretty silly.

    Besides, I only brought up the bunny outfits as a refutation to your comment that people should "give up and accept the situation". The bunny outfit for males was requested for literal years before it was released, and I can confidently tell you there is a 0% chance it would've happened if people had just given up and stopped asking for it.

    I have legacy items and other contest rewards and I have no problem with people who post threads asking to make these more available, regardless how I feel about those requests. By no means am I intending to call you out specifically, but certain replies in this and previous threads by people who disagree seem to almost take it as a personal affront that people ask for these items to be made more available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emstidor View Post
    So because SE didn't oblige every request that's been made, it invalidates the cases where they DID listen to player feedback? That's pretty silly.
    As far as history shows us, SE does not listen to feedback from people demanding rewards that are given to contest winners. They don't listen to feedback demanding legacy tatoos that are only meant for their most loyal players.


    As I said before, your bunny suit comparison does not refute anything that I have said. They are not a reward for either a exclusive contest or a reward for player loyalty. They were literally a item that was made with the original intention of being female only. Not even close to comparable situation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Emstidor View Post
    I have legacy items and other contest rewards and I have no problem with people who post threads asking to make these more available, regardless how I feel about those requests. By no means am I intending to call you out specifically, but certain replies in this and previous threads by people who disagree seem to almost take it as a personal affront that people ask for these items to be made more available.
    I find it funny that you would think that SE would begin offering the art contest rewards to other people that don't win those contests or get runner up. Those are the incentives to enter the contest in the first place. It makes no sense for them to do that, and you know it. Same with legacy items/aesthetics. Why would they ever offer something that was meant to reward LOYALTY from the very BEGINNING to random people. you ruin the original intention of those items/aesthetics by doing that.

    Regardless, people literally make this thread every month or two. You'd think with such persistence as you say it that they would cave, but they don't.
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    @Aviars, once again think what we have here is an issue of miscommunication and instead of asking others to expand further you take a combative approach with ends up derailing the conversation. Most are not asking for the exact version of the item awarded to the top 100, they are asking for an altered version. Which you seem on board with so what is it you are fighting for? I am confused. If anything you should be in support for the OP's suggestion since that would put and end to this entire discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogatum View Post
    Which you seem on board with
    There's no reason to imply I said things I didn't say. I never agreed with you on that and you know it. And I won't renew the debate with you on that. People can go back in the thread and see that clearly. You already know what I think, and it doesn't agree with pandering to people who want rewards meant to be for top 100 players.

    Good day to you. You took 1 of my last posts in this thread you won't get another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
    There's no reason to imply I said things I didn't say. I never agreed with you on that and you know it. And I won't renew the debate with you on that. People can go back in the thread and see that clearly. You already know what I think, and it doesn't agree with pandering to people who want rewards meant to be for top 100 players.

    Good day to you. You took 1 of my last posts in this thread you won't get another.
    Realistically legacy chocobo is a slightly altered version, and you said before it is a completely different item due to the differences. So a slightly altered version of the PvP mounts would also be a different item thus not breaking the agreement. You have no logical reason to be against such a change going based off the criteria you mentioned. You seem to be okay with the legacy bird, so it is really that far to fetch to think you would also be okay with slightly altered versions of the PvP rewards? If The only thing similar is the silhouette? Once again you were the one that said a tattoo and darken feathers make the legacy bird unique.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
    Seeing as there is nothing new being said. I will say good night.

    Again I won't renew the debate with you Rogatum, especially since you are starting from square one rather than where I actually responded to you last. I won't go one for 5 pages rehashing the same points with you. Go reread the thread from the beginning if you wish to do that.

    I won't be back, thread is done to me.
    I am confused, you were the one that said that the Legacy Chocobo is a unique item due to the tattoo and the darken feathers, and you seem perfectly okay with that. So following that precedent, it is reasonable to say that you would be perfectly fine if SE released an altered version that had slight differences since those difference would be what makes it an unique item. Which is what most people are asking for, a unique item that does not breach the agreement SE made with the PvP community. You said it yourself if it does not break the original agreement you would not have an issue with that beyond lamenting over the fact that they got rid of a system that rewards skill.

    Edited out things that did not pertain to the topic at hand.
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    Last edited by Rogatum; 06-26-2018 at 02:38 AM.

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