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    Quote Originally Posted by Araxes View Post
    Well thats not true. I always played Tank until Stormblood where they decided it would be a good idea to implement Samurai as a DPS. Now im a DPS Main and ill Stay DPS Main until they give us High Judge as a Tank-Job.
    Actually, in the case of Heavensward when they did bring in a new tank and healer, that was the case for maybe a month before queue times went back to normal. What had been more noticeable was that the vast majority of Dark Knight and Astrologian mains in Heavensward were already tank and healer mains before those jobs were released.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tex_Mex View Post
    But I do agree that dungeons should be balanced around 5 party members with 3 DPS.
    This is another thing that just won't happen because their argument that the tradition of Final Fantasy games having predominantly had a party of four will always outweigh any opinion players will have on the matter. However, I do agree that changes should be made to tanks and healers to make them feel more rewarding, but I also feel that it should come with making mobs and bosses deal more damage to non-tanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazrah View Post
    Actually, in the case of Heavensward when they did bring in a new tank and healer, that was the case for maybe a month before queue times went back to normal. What had been more noticeable was that the vast majority of Dark Knight and Astrologian mains in Heavensward were already tank and healer mains before those jobs were released.
    But i was Warrior / PLD :O
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    Quote Originally Posted by Araxes View Post
    But i was Warrior / PLD :O
    Yes, Stormblood proved that it's not the same both ways. Red Mage wasn't just viewed as a better alternative to Summoner at the time, but a job for healer mains to transition more easily into playing DPS. As for what players I know who went Samurai, the majority of them were tank mains who wanted something different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazrah View Post
    As for what players I know who went Samurai, the majority of them were tank mains who wanted something different.
    Absolutely this! The Majority of Players speculated, some even thought its final, that Samurai is gonna be a Tank. Big was the dissapointment when it was just another DPS many would play but only few would actually play right. Now, Sam is stuck with a bad Reputation due to specific People wanting to play a Japanese oriented Job even though they dont play it right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Araxes View Post
    The Majority of Players speculated, some even thought its final, that Samurai is gonna be a Tank. Big was the dissapointment when it was just another DPS many would play but only few would actually play right. Now, Sam is stuck with a bad Reputation due to specific People wanting to play a Japanese oriented Job even though they dont play it right.
    So speculation really came from XI players playing a game where seemingly any job could tank along with anyone who ignored the response from Yoshi when asked during Heavensward about Samurai that he was thinking something more from the Edo period for the job in the game. The nerdrage from those players though was just delicious. Oh so delicious....

    Anyway, if we were to get a new tank and healer for 5.0, queue times might not be too bad for maybe a month or so before things go back to normal unless they pull out something that makes the roles themselves more appealing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazrah View Post
    So speculation really came from XI players playing a game where seemingly any job could tank along with anyone who ignored the response from Yoshi when asked during Heavensward about Samurai that he was thinking something more from the Edo period for the job in the game. The nerdrage from those players though was just delicious. Oh so delicious....
    If I remember right in FFXI SAM was originally intended to tank while ninja was intended to be a dps/support style job. However SAM ended up being a lightweight in the tanking department due to a poor tanking kit at release and limitation of only wearing up to medium armor while players found blink tanking as a ninja was very effective in numerous situations but NIN tanks often were termed the tank for rich players due to expenses on tools and the cost of the utsusemi ni scroll on the auction house.
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