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    Miste's Avatar
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    Miste Vaer
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    Excalibur
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    Not every fight in the game is a DPS burn, and by giving the illusion that your DPS numbers matter like it was a competitive environment sucks the fun out of the game for others
    Sucks the fun out of the game for others....?

    I mean it is funny you seem to advocate that you should have fun and not take the game seriously, but all of your parser rants just show that you are just the opposite end of being way too serious about a video game.

    You're taking it too serious in how much you care what other people are doing with their game time, what they use, don't use, or how they clear content even when you aren't even playing with them at all.

    Knowing how much damage you do in a video game is ruining everything according to you...I really don't get this kind of serious attitude towards it at all, that is no different than the players you are complaining about.

    So in the end you are exactly the same as these other players you are railing against.

    Some players like competition and it is okay if some players don't. All you have to do is simply play with the players who have the same mindset as you do. If they don't? Don't play with them. There is a huge amount of diversity in this game of people to play with.


    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    And this just proves what I said above. The tool should not exist. People using it should not assume others also use it, and the minute they do, they've crossed the line from "personal use" to destroying other players enjoyment of the game.
    You know what destroys my enjoyment of the game?

    Players who don't want to be held accountable for their performance in content that requires a party to work as a team to succeed and requires a certain level of play, and players who simply don't care if they put stress on others in their groups by making other players deal with their lack of effort by having to carry it on their own shoulders instead.


    And I don't mean that anyone should be harassed or abused, this is obviously wrong for any scenario and should be reported, but there should be free room for civil adult conversations. The fact is that savage and ultimate isn't right for everyone, and it requires more personal effort which some players simply aren't willing to give.

    *from this point onwards I am speaking in general so any "you" is a general you.

    If you wish to beat savage without being accountable for your own contribution then you need to find players who are okay with helping you in that way and don't mind that you might not be pulling your own weight to contribute to the success of the group or run.

    You don't always need a parser to see if someone simply isn't ready for savage or is causing the mass majority of the problems for 7 other players. It is the group leader's decision whether or not this person needs to be removed or not. Do they always make the right decisions? Nope, but if it is their party then they have the right to remove anyone they wish from it.

    I've been kicked from PF parties before. It is rare in my case, but it happens. Whether I think the kick was the right decision or not doesn't mean anything though since it is the party leader's decision, not mine, so I shrug and go join another group and that is how everyone else should be dealing with it.

    You cannot force people to play with you if they don't want to just like we can't force you to play with us if you don't want to.

    If you think you know they kicked you for no reason? Just laugh and move on.

    But, you could also take a bit of time to analyze what might have gone wrong to make them kick you and maybe learn from it.
    Did you die on the same mechanic multiple times?
    Were you maybe failing to do something they asked you multiple times for?
    Were you forgetting something that your role should be doing?
    Think about everything and see if there is room for improvement on your end, then take that and move on and try again.
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    Last edited by Miste; 06-20-2018 at 06:03 AM.