Can we talk about the elephant in the room - Permanent Bans from the Official Forums

[alimdia]

How can someone abuse a vote kick if one difference of play style is a valid reason to kick someone, and two it takes a majority for a kick to go through? Just wondering.

I imagine they queued with friends.

[Hyperia]

As I understand, the forums moderation is contracted out to a company which follows the letter of the law for any policy that SE sets. They also tend to follow a zero tolerance policy when it comes to any form of harassment, perceived or otherwise. This is done because if SE isn't heavy handed and something goes wrong, they can be sued for a titanic amount of money in most courts and they would loose.

With all of that said, I would love to see a formal path for redemption but I doubt we will see it. The outsourcing is why the game GMs are unable do anything about bans, they don't control the forums. The only person in SE who has ever dealt with a ban reversal was Yoshi himself and I don't know if that was ever reversed.

Best advice I can give anybody on the forums is don't say anything you wouldn't want posted on the front page of the New York Times and if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.

[ExKage]

Are the GM's in game the same Forum Mods?

Yes, Enkrateia's answered that GMs in-game also moderate the forums.

[Tint]

Best advice I can give anybody on the forums is don't say anything you wouldn't want posted on the front page of the New York Times and if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.

[Mikhaill]

Yes, Enkrateia's answered that GMs in-game also moderate the forums.

There might be a chance to upheave the bans then.
Has anyone tried to contact them in-game?

[Zyneste]

There might be a chance to upheave the bans then.
Has anyone tried to contact them in-game?

They escalate it, "look into it," then cookie cutter answer. A rep once apologized to Rawrz because he felt his temporary ban was unjustified, but there was nothing he could do but escalate it once. Same zero thought answer.

[Beckett]

A bunch of guide writers got perma'd towards the start of HW for including videos/images in their guides with parsers in the background.

VanilleFang was banned for a joke thread. They posted an incredibly small portion of their own fflogs page in a screenshot - literally just their 100% run as a WHM on the last boss in Rabanastre. The caption was something like "look what Holy did!" and that was it. It was a cute lol and a nice thing to congratulate.

lol what? What happened to "We can't accept any evidence except in-game logs. Photos and videos can be edited."?

[Mesarthim]

Words of the English Variety.

I've had a post stealth removed for containing profanity once. And you know what? I was quoting a post using that exact phrase but they left their post, not mine. They don't even read the full posts.

[Tiraelina]

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The rules have been the same as they have always been since 1.0. Action being taken is going to be entirely dependent on a moderator seeing it/being reported.

http://support.na.square-enix.com/ru...la=1&tag=forum

"Use of inappropriate or aggressive language."

[Celef]

"Use of inappropriate or aggressive language."

Then what about those threating to eat lalas ? isn't that aggressive ? ^^"