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  1. 06-16-2018 06:48 PM

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    BillyKaplan's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    He was talking of PF. If someone manages to clear a fight (or it's stuck at X phase) the first day and after that, he wants to make a farm party what's the problem? Even the duty finder offer those options.
    Asking for "must have watched a guide" two hours into the patch when there ARE no guides is delusional at best.
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  3. 06-16-2018 07:07 PM

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    Tyr Gowind
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    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    So, a few do something stupid (to be honest guides for extreme Primals come really fast, I have my doubts that you are honest with your argument)=players requesting something the first day are jerks? Ok.
    I don't think that people who have their own set of requirements are jerks, but it is certainly disheartening to see people already demanding people to watch guides on day one, so I can understand his frustration. I found myself saying the same thing on release day when I'm setting up a learning PF and see "KNOW FIGHT OR KICK (this is purely anecdotal, but I have seen it several times).
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Quote Originally Posted by TyrTry View Post
    I don't think that people who have their own set of requirements are jerks, but it is certainly disheartening to see people already demanding people to watch guides on day one, so I can understand his frustration. I found myself saying the same thing on release day when I'm setting up a learning PF and see "KNOW FIGHT OR KICK (this is purely anecdotal, but I have seen it several times).
    Why do you let that affect yourself though?
    If you dont wanna watch a guide on day one, you can set up a PF for a blind run a month later and see if there are (enough) people enjoying the game the same way you do - or you outright surrond yourself with such people.

    I laugh a bit at the people demanding to have watched a guide on day one because they're probably gonna have trouble (or not) to fill their group, but thats about it. I'm not concerend or dishearted if people enjoy this game a different way than I do (as long as they stick to the rules of the game, obviously).
    If someone needs to have cleared everything 2 hours after the patch dropped - cool.
    If someone wants to take it more slowly - cool aswell.

    I think the "guide on day one"-PFs are a bit silly too, but if it works for them... it works for them and has no negative impact on my enjoyment of the game - if I dont want to watch a guide on day one, I can make my own PF a week later.
    If enough people share my idea of enjoyment - I'm lucky.
    If not, the others are.

    People want to play new and exciting content and for longterm people that means: the new patchstuff. It also means that they probably went through at least a month of content that started feeling stale and outdated so they're hungry and excited and will jump right in. Usually you'll see threads complaining about the lack of content or "I unsubbed and this is why"-rants a few weeks before the next patch hits.
    People want to play the game, but they cant stand to repeat the same fights over and over anymore, so when there is new stuff...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    Why do you let that affect yourself though?
    If you dont wanna watch a guide on day one, you can set up a PF for a blind run a month later and see if there are (enough) people enjoying the game the same way you do - or you outright surrond yourself with such people.
    I was merely quoting an extreme situation of the "know fight or kick" parade that happens relatively rarely, but often enough that it is rather enlightening to acknowledge that part of that player base exist (stating the obvious). It only affects other players when that mentality spreads into other groups; nothing wrong with keeping your own rules and expectations inside PF, just don't expect everyone to follow those rules outside of your own jurisdiction. But that doesn't excuse people getting ticked at new players because "it's been 5 days, they should know the fight already!"
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