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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    Yes, you are most definitely entitled to your own opinion and have the freedom to express it....and other people are just as free to contest you on it with their own. Freedom of speech doesn't protect you nor exempt you from criticism by others. By all means, have an opinion at your own leisure...just realize that no one has to accept it nor agree with you having it.
    Someone gets it! Here, have my upvote!

    I am kinda surprised that people can get upset over a public discussion...if you make a thread on the forum, be prepared to get it torn to shred.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AriaFairchild View Post
    Well, the thing is I don't care if it's sexualized, be it males or females...but please be sexy in clothings that are appropriate to your gender.

    But I don't care if they happen to implement it tho. Take my statement something like: "Your cooking sucks, but don't let my comment keeps you from cooking...but I still think it sucks".
    If we did that then women still wouldn't be able to wear pants without getting arrested. What clothes belong to what gender is culturally dictated, not a cold hard scientific truth of the world. You say you don't care but you care enough to say it's "inappropriate," so your attempt at neutrality is just laughable, really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AriaFairchild View Post
    I am kinda surprised that people can get upset over a public discussion...if you make a thread on the forum, be prepared to get it torn to shred.
    It's mostly by how some (one specific person comes to mind... oh, they also made tags for this thread. That's cute) people have responded. Your post is 'fine,' even if I don't agree with it, but there are others that are just uncalled for.
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    Last edited by Nestama; 06-16-2018 at 10:05 AM.

  4. #124
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    Quote Originally Posted by NahuNa View Post
    If we did that then women still wouldn't be able to wear pants without getting arrested. What clothes belong to what gender is culturally dictated, not a cold hard scientific truth of the world. You say you don't care but you care enough to say it's "inappropriate," so your attempt at neutrality is just laughable, really.
    I am glad that I was able to entertain you. Haizz...I am certainly not neutral in my opinion, of course not. In case you forgot, I am going to repeat it again: I think that outfit is an abomination on males.

    I am, however, not going to object to it being implemented.

    What more do you want from me? That I have to say it's "appropriate"?
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  5. #125
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    Quote Originally Posted by AriaFairchild View Post
    I am glad that I was able to entertain you. Haizz...I am certainly not neutral in my opinion, of course not. In case you forgot, I am going to repeat it again: I think that outfit is an abomination on males.

    I am, however, not going to object to it being implemented.

    What more do you want from me? That I have to say it's "appropriate"?
    I want you to reflect as to why you think it's an "abomination" to begin with. What people think is just opinions on a videogame may manifest in other ways and affect real people more deeply than you know.
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  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by NahuNa View Post
    I want you to reflect as to why you think it's an "abomination" to begin with.
    We are running in circle here so this will be my last post on this thread:

    As stated before, I think it is an abomination because in my opinion, it looks ugly on men, and that men and women should be in attires that are appropriate to their genders.

    What people think is just opinions on a videogame may manifest in other ways and affect real people more deeply than you know.
    Yea, just like the hysteria where playing DnD would lead you to conjuring witchcraft? Or playing Mortal Kombat would incite urges to perform fatalities on random pedestrians? That is some really fantastic mental gymnastic there.

    I think you are just being paranoid.
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  7. #127
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    Quote Originally Posted by AriaFairchild View Post
    We are running in circle here so this will be my last post on this thread:

    As stated before, I think it is an abomination because in my opinion, it looks ugly on men, and that men and women should be in attires that are appropriate to their genders.
    It's only a circle because you believe that's where it ends - there's a reason you think certain outfits belong only to certain genders and it's not just "your opinion". Think about what that reason is. What helped form that opinion? Where did you learn it from?

    Quote Originally Posted by AriaFairchild View Post
    Yea, just like the hysteria where playing DnD would lead you to conjuring witchcraft? Or playing Mortal Kombat would incite urges to perform fatalities on random pedestrians? That is some really fantastic mental gymnastic there.

    I think you are just being paranoid.
    Nah, more like you thinking men who may dress femininely in real life are abominations. I don't gotta be paranoid when that's just what happens, baybee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crystal_Raven View Post
    The majority is almost always wrong.

    If the majority would be right, Lady Gaga/Lionel Messi/Brad Pitt, would've been president by now. Humans have a bias for groupthink and as a result readily accept any prevailing wisdom.

    At one time or another, the majority believed that public hanging is OK, women are weaker in everything, men should never ever cry, US would never have a black president, you get the idea by now...
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
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    Baby, tell me, what's your motive?

  9. #129
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    When the male bunny outfit was first announced, I made a comment here about how I had been expecting something different and wouldn't be putting fishnets on any of my male alts.
    Then I went away and thought about it. My fem roe wears a lot of 'masculine' tailored gear and looks great in it, my male bard wears heels, so what exactly was my problem with males in fishnets? I came to the conclusion that it was simply because I was used to thinking of fishnets as female wear. In retrospect that seemed a pretty weak reason to complain about them.
    Take a look at this picture FFXIV Bunny Boys I think that male au ra absolutely rocks this outfit and the other tall races look pretty good, too. It seems a shame to introduce the bunny costume for males and not dress any npcs in it.
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    Last edited by Solarra; 06-16-2018 at 05:59 PM.

  10. #130
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    I'd like the male npc's to not wear the outfit. My reason is that I think the outfit doesn't look good on male characters. I recognize that my culture partially affects my taste, but so what? I care more about my own culture than some culture from a different time or place in which this kind of attire is considered good looking on males.

    This has nothing to do with what individuals wear since the thread is about wanting to dress non-playable characters which were not made by and are not controlled by any of us.
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