To me, Eureka is, alongside the two diadems, one of the worst game design I ever saw in a MMO. There may be worse, but I have not experienced it. Still, Eureka might be better than Diadem, because the map is good and there is a sens of danger (at least until lvl 17/18). Plus the relic is here, so there's a reward, outdated yes, but a reward nonetheless.

But aside from that, it's just the dumbest thing :
- Another (!) FATEs train after people said that they didn't like FATEs on Diadem.
- The loot table is a joke. There's like 2 items all in all that you need for the relic; aside from the glamour that you get a chance to drop in the FATEs.
- The elemental wheel is not fun. I can get the though process behind that, but the execution is really clumsy, at best.
- The elemental level is poorly implemented. Because of it, people with lower EL have to wait/afk from the side so that people with the right EL can kill monsters to make the FATEs pop. Players with low EL who still try to participate will deal next to no damage to the mob and will get killed at worst. Eureka literally rewards you for being AFK!
- There's nothing to do outside of those brainless FATEs. Where is the content for crafter/gatherer? Where are the hunt? Or the leves even?
- The FATEs in itself are just a zergfest. People do some dps, die, get raised, and dps again. There is either too much people in one instance, or the fight are just designed to be that stupid.


Personally, I don't mind the grind. I don't mind losing XP when I die. I don't mind mind having no flying mount. But seriously, who designed this? A beginner in game design? To me, Eureka is a insult toward the player base. A message like "you are way too dumb for anything better, so enjoy rolling your face on the keyboard for some relics".

I tried my hand at it, from the very first day. I tried to like it even. But when I reached lvl 12, I just couldn't go on with this. It was just a long, boring and mindless grind for meaningless rewards and I simply refuse to set another foot in this. Pagos is coming for 4.36 but if there is no drastic change, I will totally skip the relic without regret for this expansion.


Of course, Eureka is better than the Diadem. But it's better in the sense that sleeping on the street is better than sleeping in the sewers ...

I really wonder why they didn't dismantled the Diadem team instead of putting them on an other project like Eureka. After the first two iterations of the Diadem, it was clear that they don't have good game designer in it...