[Request] Can we have more race-specific hairstyles?

[Zumi]

Yes please I love stuff like race specific hairstyles and outfits. Makes me feel more unique.

[Rokke]

I just went AuRa and the only decent hair was the one I am wearing. My favorite hair on most races (long with long thick hair sides on the front - not too good at description) interfered with the horns of the face I choose. And most or all race specific hair added Lil weird horns.
So if AuRa were to have more Race specific hair I would like them to be able to remove those added Lil horns.

The horns keep me from using the bulk of racial hair styles since they don't match my scales and look super out of place. I'd rather use a generic hair than a custom tailored one that still manages to looks bad on the intended race :/

[Tsumdere]

I think you may be blowing this request out of proportion. If you look on the front page, I linked to a post that does the maths to put things into perspective if you want to take a gander. (ctrl f: Construct 7)

I honestly have read this math part several times and I still cannot tell what you are trying to say. Is it that some races have less hairstyles? Well... yeah? You could have said that in one sentence. Some races have less FACES. That's a character creation flaw at this point (and there is threads much longer than this asking to improve it). And guess what... if we unlocked all hairstyles... they would be equal.

But if they were to do more race specific hairstyles... that is 13 new hairstyles per patch cycle unless you just wanted to do it by full race not clan, in which it would be 7 because Midlander/Highlander have always been separate. Double those numbers if you make them gender specific so... 26 to 14 new hairstyles. lmfao. They currently make 1-2 per patch cycle.

If they did do a full 14-26 hairstyles per patch cycle, including in the neutral ones - it would be... okay. It would be obnoxious at best, but doable. Where they would get this manpower and money? Realistically, they would leave it at 1-2 hairstyles per patch and just cycle through the races meaning that some races would have to wait literal years for their racial hairstyle. And everyone, instead of getting about 9 new hairstyles in a patch cycle, they would get maybe 3-4. And there is no guarantee they would like it which just adds salt to the wound.

Or, if I am reading you correctly (who knows), they would be making Hyur male, Lalafell, and Miqo'te styles only to close the gap. And yes. That is a good two years worth of hairstyles that no other race would get if we base it on SE's actual workflow.

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Don't get me wrong, I wish they would go back and fix their hairstyles and lack of character creation, because some of those hairstyles are so terribly modeled they made my 3D modelling teacher laugh out loud, but this is an ass backwards way of requesting it imo.

[Magic-Mal]

Instead of locking hairstyles for the sake of "making them look good". Why not make hairstyles for a certain race but also wearable by others? I could never understand the whole "uniqueness" argument when if everyone in a race wore the new style they'd all look the same?

Am I the only one who hated school uniforms growing up or something?

[Alleo]

I think you may be blowing this request out of proportion. If you look on the front page, I linked to a post that does the maths to put things into perspective if you want to take a gander. (ctrl f: Construct 7)

I was answering Theodric who wanted race and gender specific hairstyles, which would give us barely any choice since they would have to create a hairstyle for each gender and on top of that for each race.

[Corue]

Can we make bunny suits female only again? I fear we are losing uniqueness in our customisation.

[alimdia]

Can we make bunny suits female only again? I fear we are losing uniqueness in our customisation.

Only if we can delete all moogle outfits, moogles should remain unique.

[MOZZYSTAR]

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It's pretty simple, actually. The numbers (3-4 styles versus 40+ styles) were just to show that there are significantly more neutral styles ("per race") than there are race-based styles. As for the maths, all I'm saying is that instead of 10+ general hairstyles per year, they could do 7+ general hairstyles alongside with 2-3 race hairstyles per year. So, in one patch it might be 2 general hairstyles or it might be 1 general hair style + 1 race specific hairstyle (with the former being more common). The specific-race style they present that patch would pertain to one race, of course. It's okay for races to take turns, and it's perfectly okay for people to share resources.

Needless to say, how SE would actually execute (if they ever executed) it is up to them. Believe it or not, we don't know how SE works and we can't control SE to work by our list of steps (i.e. "add to the most deficient races first and then you may add to the rest") or by our agendas because we really don't know how it works. My concern is not to fill up the gaps, but just to include more for each race just like more neutral hairstyles. The only race that probably don't need more "race/tribe/whatever styles" are midlanders because all of the general styles pretty much fit the bill for them.

So, in short: I'm not bothering to get into the nitty gritty like that. All I'm saying is in theory, the numbers say it's possible without sacrificing the continuation of general hairstyles that everyone wants and if - in theory - SE went by my formula, general hairstyles would still be prioritised by over 70%, which I think is more than fair.

Instead of locking hairstyles for the sake of "making them look good". Why not make hairstyles for a certain race but also wearable by others? I could never understand the whole "uniqueness" argument when if everyone in a race wore the new style they'd all look the same?

Am I the only one who hated school uniforms growing up or something?

Think elves from Lord of the Ring. Even fashion and make-up styles are different among real countries. In Japan, the liked fashion is a covered top for girls (so no exposed shoulders/chest for the most part) but they can expose a lot of leg. Meanwhile, it's pretty much the reverse in the US.

As for uniforms...-sighs- Considering this is a game, there will be hundreds of people who have the same hairstyle as your character, same colour as well so I don't really understand this argument. Is it bad for Domans to wear kimono and yukata? Is that too uniform, too? Or is that acceptable because it's somehow different? (It's not. It's cultural.) Think of tribal/race hair as yukata. It's just a representation of that clan's origins. People don't have to use them, that's what we have 40+ other styles for.


And I am still debating hair. /sighs/ I'm just gonna go back to doodling.

[Tsumdere]

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lol. If we go by your theory, what you are basically saying with the 2-3 racial hairstyles a year, for some poor schmuck of a race (either Elezen or Roe lets be real) gets their racial hair in... 6-7 years. Whomp. That doesn't sound right does it?

There is more neutral styles because shock and awe, a lot of people don't like race locked, there is no lore/cultural reason for them at all (sincerely, tell me what *insert literally every race here*'s hair is supposed to look like) and it takes significantly more time and resources to make 14 new hairstyles instead of 2.

[Nihility]

I doubt they would ever do stuff like that again.
So many people raise such a fuss over any little thing that isn't all inclusive that they just stopped trying

Personally, I think it's the differences that make things special and fully support adding race specific gears and styles even if it means some race other than my own gets a super awesome emote or hairstyle