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  1. #31
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    Lambdafish's Avatar
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    Ul-Dah
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by WhyAmIHere View Post
    Like I said, it happens so far and few between. But if I have to get up and help a family member who cannot do something themselves (elderly person unable to do a thing, specifically), or I get a phone call that requires my attention.
    That and life situations are varied from person to person. I wouldn't judge others out-of-game situations based on your own.
    I don't thing the devs should cater to that though do you? If you have to step away fine, but take the punishment that comes with that. The feature is designed to get you into the arena when you lag behind so you can contribute. You are asking us to accept people who afk and remove a system that forces them to contribute in some way.
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  2. #32
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    Leloa's Avatar
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    Lena Vales
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    Phoenix
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Seems like an excuse to not have to fight if it's so hard for you to be raised and continue the fight with your party. You just want to stay outside and gather your loot.
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  3. #33
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    Yenyen's Avatar
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    Zhenif Amberry
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    Phoenix
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    White Mage Lv 90
    This thread is silly. If you're afk, say nothing, we get impatient and you don't start the fight or at least teleport in and die/afk, I like to avoid fights or anything of the sorts but this would at least give me a valid reason to replace you.
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    Last edited by Yenyen; 06-07-2018 at 09:57 PM.

  4. #34
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    Cirgellon's Avatar
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    Cirgellon Dailemont
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    Behemoth
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    Archer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by WhyAmIHere View Post
    My main point is this: If I'm still AFK, and the thing moves me to the arena to die, and I don't click on the revive thing, why even forcibly move me to the arena? Bigger point: why does the "get warped to the arena" thing even have a timer if it'll just automatically move you in anyways?
    As far as dude said with the cutscene thing, that is all well and good. I'd rather that you not get forcibly moved into the arena with the option to teleport into it, and get rid of the time limit before being automatically moved in regardless.
    Obviously the button is to get in sooner of you get back before the timer runs out.

    Why are you trying to justify going afk anyways? You are the problem, not the game...
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  5. #35
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    InkstainedGwyn's Avatar
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    Souji Hanamura
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 90
    Basically,
    1. If you are in a dungeon you are expected to participate in boss fights.
    2. If you anticipate needing to go AFK, don't queue.
    3. If an emergency happens then dying in a video game is probably the least of your worries, given that there are no consequences for doing so.
    4. If you know you're going to potentially go AFK, you should talk to your group. They should be as fine with you being dead as with you being locked out.

    TL;DR: Leaving the button as optional still gives lazy players the ability to not participate and this forces you to participate in the content you sign up for. The "negative effects" of this are so laughable that they're 100% negligible.
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    Last edited by InkstainedGwyn; 06-07-2018 at 11:11 PM.

  6. #36
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    Areic's Avatar
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    Areic Davrun
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by WhyAmIHere View Post
    My main point is this: If I'm still AFK, and the thing moves me to the arena to die, and I don't click on the revive thing, why even forcibly move me to the arena? Bigger point: why does the "get warped to the arena" thing even have a timer if it'll just automatically move you in anyways?
    As far as dude said with the cutscene thing, that is all well and good. I'd rather that you not get forcibly moved into the arena with the option to teleport into it, and get rid of the time limit before being automatically moved in regardless.
    Because if you're not worried about a timer and you're not contributing to the raid enough for this to warrant a forum post you probably deserve the single death for wasting people's time?

    It's a death, if you're gone longer than the timer you're lucky it's that rather than the overall boot. You'll pay some chump change in repair bills and thats it.
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    Last edited by Areic; 06-07-2018 at 11:38 PM.

  7. #37
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    Elamys's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Song Sparrow
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    Probably wouldn't be able to get away with invulnerability since players might rig it so the d/c before the fight and reconnect just as the tank buster comes. Yes, unlikely to pull off.
    Breathtakingly unlikely to happen and it wouldn't help an invulnerable tank take the hit anyways since they wouldn't have any enmity on the boss. The invuln would go away once they used any ability.
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    cerise leclaire
    (bad omnicrafter & terrible astrologian)

  8. #38
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    Vanitas's Avatar
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    Vanitas Olterian
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    It almost sounds like you WANT to afk out of the boss arena.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    You're good at the game? You're an elitist.
    You're using a parser to better yourself? Elitist.
    You're making suggestions on how someone can improve themselves? E l i t i s t.

    You wipe a farm party constantly but you're having fun playing your way. Nah you're fine dude.

    This community astounds me at times.

  9. #39
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    Claviusnex's Avatar
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    Alinhbo Rhiki
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    Adamantoise
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    Why do I see so many worried about wasting MP on raising an afk player? If player didn't get moved until the timer finished, if the player didn't do anything after being moved, if the player is lying dead exactly where they teleported to, chances are you can save your MP, until/unless they finally speak up. Because it's one thing to step afk without saying anything, but if you get back and you're dead, kinda no reason not to take a few seconds to type something up. Because you're not doing anything else.
    I'm not paying attention to what that one player did to get to where they died as I have other things to pay attention to after the pull. I'll guarantee I'm not the only one who sees a dead player and tries to raise them. I don't think it is worth a change to the way the timer works but it is definitely a negative effect of the change.
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  10. #40
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    WhyAmIHere's Avatar
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    Mute Shellback
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Yenyen View Post
    This thread is silly. If you're afk, say nothing, we get impatient and you don't start the fight or at least teleport in and die/afk, I like to avoid fights or anything of the sorts but this would at least give me a valid reason to replace you.
    That's fine. It's happened to me, and I've had to boot afk people as well. I just eat the kick, and requeue for whatever it was once i know I'll have more time to actually allocate to the dungeon/raid/trial/whatever.

    My point isn't to skip out on content, like so many seem to think. My point is taking agency from the player by forcing them to be moved into a boss arena when they're not present themselves. Life happens, and if I wind up being kicked, then so be it.
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