Normal (newbie) version of the new Ultima fight for casuals? xD

[Kurando]

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Oh definitely understand where you are coming from, but I just can't see it staying as synced content forever. I mean eventually players will be able to unsync the Omega Savage raids to unlock these Ultimate duties anyway so the requirement for actually unlocking them means already there isn't much sense of accomplishment don't you think?

Considering how well the ultimate duties are being received I could only guess we'll regularly get more in the future to satisfy hardcore raiders. And besides, the new expacs may bring further combat changes which could make previous raids somewhat easier in some degree so who knows.

[Leglibe]

It's called Garuda Normal, Titan Normal, Ifrit Normal, and Praetorium. Have fun with those.

[Adeacia]

From my view, ultimate already is easy mode. If it's supposed to be hard:

No pre-made parties allowed
Mechanics are completely random.

Parsers and voice chat don't work. (impossible to happen obviously)

Let's see people finish that.

[Dualgunner]

Oh definitely understand where you are coming from, but I just can't see it staying as synced content forever. I mean eventually players will be able to unsync the Omega Savage raids to unlock these Ultimate duties anyway so the requirement for actually unlocking them means already there isn't much sense of accomplishment don't you think?

I think the real issues are twofold:

1: Look at Lv60 Machinist. If Lv80 breaks some jobs like for 70 like 70 did to 60, then synched down the fights just won't even be possible in a lot of comps.

2: Because of the way synch works, which I wish it didn't, when you synch from any iLv to any iLv all of your materia gets nulled. This used to not be a big issue because even g5 materia only gave minimal substat increases; now we're looking at people losing almost literally thousands of substat unless they make ultima specific gearsets out of sometimes obscure and stupid to get gear.

I hope they rework synch rules so that materia doesn't get nulled out, and I hope that the challenge remains intact whatever they do in the future.

[AppleJinx]

Threads like this just makes me more and more glad that ultimate is locked behind their relevant savage tiers.

[MageBlack]

I actually love this content as it is and I hope it's never accessible to casuals, including myself.

Watching people do these, I've kinda wanted to give it a try.

The savage content has been made easy for us, the extreme trials too, so what do the hardcore raiders get? They get fights built off of content that we have already gotten.

Let them have their one thing.



They're a cakewalk because people complained, they were nerfed into the ground. They were not as easy as they are not on release, even with gear.

Yup, and this thread begins the next nerf consideration.

Don't get me wrong, I dont want it to be that way. I would rather things stay difficult and not get nerfed but after everything else they have done to this game, my cynicism is high.

[Alien_Gamer]

When the ultimate series was announced yoshi stated it would have an ilv sync to preserve the difficulty through the expansion. However I don't believe any mention of unsyncing it later was made; I doubt we'll get any info on that before 5.0.

[Remyogic]

I highlighted the part you missed.

There is a difference between Lvl sync and iLvl sync.

You can Lvl sync down to lvl 50 in lvl 70 gear and your stats will sync down to lvl50 max gear stats (ilvl 135). If you are going into First Coil, that raid was tuned around ilvl80 - 90 gear. Even lvl Sync'd, you are WAY overgeared.

This is besides the fact that all the Coil raids were nerfed to hell because VERY few people could prog them. Twintania caused more Raid teams to shatter than a bull in a china shop.

Ultimate fights will sync your Level AND your iLevel, basically ensuring you can NEVER out-gear the fight.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

As well even unsynced certain fights still need mechanics to be done even if they are easier now. Getting hit by a twister in T5 for example is still a one-hit kill.

Sadly, you won't even see Twisters in T5 anymore. I have solo'd Twin on Warrior. Unsynced inevitably trivializes most fights.

[Dualblade]

Sadly, you won't even see Twisters in T5 anymore. I have solo'd Twin on Warrior. Unsynced inevitably trivializes most fights.

Says you, my not as good butt has seen twisters and ends up killed by the add in the last phase as of 4.1 trying to solo it as Paladin .