Quote Originally Posted by Asiragan View Post
Does it seems like a normal situation to you? That the good players are the one being "shamed" as you like to say it while the bad one is putting pressure on everyone while dragging the fight for him and for the other?

But how can you reason people like that without a parser? I don't think you can. Or at least, not as long as the ToS will continue to block you from stating the truth.

In my opinion, bad players aren't the victims. The victims are actually everyone who has to deal with them.


Plus, even though "pressure" did happen at the start of the thread, it finally quiet down, and now people have really civile discussion. I really don't think that people are fragile enough to be hurt by that, and I like to think that they are also smart enough to read after the few firsts pages before making their own opinion on the topic.
In my experience, this happens far more often than raiders shaming casual players. I've even been in pugs where someone outright mentioned numbers yet did so in a completely diplomatic manner. He simply wanted to convey why the WAR couldn't hold aggro off a BRD or DRG; his damage was far too low for the cheese opener he was attempting.

Likewise, I share your opinion. What irks me to no end isn't inexperience, but players who absolutely refuse to better themselves yet get upset when everyone else doesn't wish to tolerant it. Many of those same people scream about it "just being a game!" Well, it isn't a fun game when I joined that farm party and basically had to carry all but two people. Although, it certainly made me laugh.