DPS who do 4k worth of damage = garbage tier

[MoroMurasaki]

In a garbage tier thread, really?

Lets be honest - this thread hasn't been about Kaiva's original post for quite some time. People brought up the subject of optimization in relation to relative damage output and The Balance is a great resource to get started on optimizing your play.

If you want to ignore that entire aspect of gameplay go right ahead but don't expect people who do put in that effort to cater to you or not talk about their interests when the conversation suits it.

He/She feels understandably guilty about starting a thread where the ugliest of behaviors rise up and people start clawing and biting at each other like rabid dogs.

You're 100% wrong- Kaiva is in no way responsible for your actions.

[Linx0r]

My issue with OP’s topic is the labelling. You don’t need to classify players as garbage. In this game, you don’t need to be a top dps player or whatever to be classified as a ‘good player’. This definition will fluctuate as we are all individuals and our perspectives are unique. Personally, a good player is someone who is enjoying themselves and helps people and listens to others. Good player = good person. To me that’s more important than someone doing dps. Yes there are talented people but don’t go calling people who aren’t as talented ‘garbage’ . That’s just a trashy analogy

[KaivaC]

My issue with OP’s topic is the labelling. You don’t need to classify players as garbage. In this game, you don’t need to be a top dps player or whatever to be classified as a ‘good player’. This definition will fluctuate as we are all individuals and our perspectives are unique. Personally, a good player is someone who is enjoying themselves and helps people and listens to others. Good player = good person. To me that’s more important than someone doing dps. Yes there are talented people but don’t go calling people who aren’t as talented ‘garbage’ . That’s just a trashy analogy

You know, I’ve apologized for a lot of things in this thread – but the one thing I will NOT apologize for is something that I never said in the first place. This is how I know you have no idea what I even said originally – the intents of the thread title and the original post are contradictory. I missed putting in a question mark. I am not saying that 4k DPS are trash. I forgot to put a question mark in it – something I did say a page or two ago. That is what I am apologizing for, because I have a number of people are up in arms thinking that I have made an elitist thread. The intent originally was to ask if this was a valid statement, why or why not. It’s why I’m going to such lengths to hide myself and why I have apologized multiple times, because I have never in my life said anything like this and I don’t need people hounding me down and accusing me of being a damn elitist in-game.

I will repeat again: the title was not supposed to be a statement. It was supposed to be a question. If these asinine forums didn’t restrict me from editing it, I’d have been added a question mark already. Unfortunately, I cannot change the title of a thread, but let me be clear: it is a question, not a statement.

[MageBlack]

You know, I’ve apologized for a lot of things in this thread – but the one thing I will NOT apologize for is something that I never said in the first place. This is how I know you have no idea what I even said originally – the intents of the thread title and the original post are contradictory. I missed putting in a question mark. I am not saying that 4k DPS are trash. I forgot to put a question mark in it – something I did say a page or two ago. That is what I am apologizing for, because I have a number of people are up in arms thinking that I have made an elitist thread. The intent originally was to ask if this was a valid statement, why or why not. It’s why I’m going to such lengths to hide myself and why I have apologized multiple times, because I have never in my life said anything like this and I don’t need people hounding me down and accusing me of being a damn elitist in-game.

I will repeat again: the title was not supposed to be a statement. It was supposed to be a question. If these asinine forums didn’t restrict me from editing it, I’d have been added a question mark already. Unfortunately, I cannot change the title of a thread, but let me be clear: it is a question, not a statement.

You cant put the genie back in the bottle. Not at this point. You could delete your entire OP and enter a retraction of sorts but that would be the best you could hope for. Without the ability to actually delete our own threads or even edit the titles, once its out there, its out there. You have done what you can and I know it has changed my initial impression of this thread along with actual level headed conversations about the topics that have been brought up here. I don't think its a waste of time and there has been some good debate as a result. It has not been a total loss.

One thing that has helped me a little bit when dealing with crabby people online (which is all of them?) is to remember this quote, "You you to insult me I would first have to value your opinion" for me to value your opinion I would first have to care that this random ass person online is worth the comments they made.

Then again sometimes it can be amusing to troll the trollers but there is a fine line between combating trolls and becoming a troll yourself. I try to be more of a hemorrhoid than an asshole, assholes just exist to spew out crap but hemorrhoid's irritate assholes.

[Jellybums]

Lets be honest - this thread hasn't been about Kaiva's original post for quite some time. People brought up the subject of optimization in relation to relative damage output and The Balance is a great resource to get started on optimizing your play.

If you want to ignore that entire aspect of gameplay go right ahead but don't expect people who do put in that effort to cater to you or not talk about their interests when the conversation suits it.

You're 100% wrong- Kaiva is in no way responsible for your actions.

Just commenting on the bad ad placement. You wouldn't advertise your brand on a racist YouTuber's channel unless you're fine with the association. So you advertise in a thread that slick promotes elitism. A lot of backpedaling here, too, and the if you're not with us then you just wanna play bad. This is a thread I hope no returner or newbie ever sees. They shouldn't feel bad about being behind but be optimistic about bettering themselves.

[Maeka]

You're 100% wrong- Kaiva is in no way responsible for your actions.

Wait, what?

What do you mean, "my actions"?

What'd I do?

And I said in the very same post you quoted (that you didn't quote) that it's not the OP's fault that people decided to have a go at each other in this thread. But I, myself, didn't participate in it.