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  1. #31
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    Hiveer's Avatar
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    Gael Laurant
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    Some classes shine more than others, can't be helped. And SAM has little party utility at the moment so it's harder to get noticed.
    Try using Goad on those who need it, AoE when called for (yes, a lot of SAM don't do it much...) and time limit breaks well. Assuming you don't yet, and if you do, then... Senpai will notice you some day.
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  2. #32
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    Penthea's Avatar
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    Character
    Nettle Creidne
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    If you play a whm you escape comments about giving the party the wrong buffs, which is nice.

    I once zoned in to an instance as sch, I had Eos out because of some very low level content I had done just before and the tank literally said to me "oh you think I'm a s*** tank then? You don't want to use Selene?" before I even had the chance to say hi.

    As ast I tend to get unlucky streaks in which I draw little other than ewer and spire. At one point I got one of these streaks and when I drew bole figured well if nothing else I'll have less healing to do so I can do more dps, better than casting no buffs...and the bard went crazy at me for not magically drawing dps cards.
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  3. #33
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lium View Post
    I've noticed something of late. When I'm on my main, RDM, I often get two or three comms and people seem to compliment me a lot or even joke around with me in dungeons.

    When I'm on my SAM, it's the opposite. I'll even get rude comments sometimes. Now this could totally be because I don't play my SAM as well as RDM, I'll readily admit. But I'm not terrible. (Most of the time.)

    It's weird. Do SAMs have a reputation of playing badly or something? Are people like, "Oh damn. A SAM. Prob a FOTM reroll." This has happened on other MMOs. I'm just curious if this happens here, too.

    With me, I don't care who is in the group as long as we clear the dungeon without any problems.
    Somehow I have noticed ppl seeming more chill with casters than with melee, come to think of it. No idea why.

    I'm less chill with them only if they're really bad and only because their mistakes are occurring between me and the targets, i.e. very visibly. I suspect the added movement key presses during combat (and in some cases higher apm besides) may also reduce the ease of text chat between GCDs on a melee. I don't speak much during Mage's Ballad, but otherwise I feel decently free to write out sentences, a bit at a time, during combat, and that seems to be the case with many a competent other caster as well. Or maybe we melee-lovers are just the kind of people who like to more intensely feel the combat around them, or their part in it, and both act and are acted towards more intensely as a result. Who knows?

    In all likelihood, it's 90% confirmation bias, generated from something noted from some prior bit of confirmation bias, from something noted from some prior bit of confirmation bias, from some random, innocuous experience that nonetheless stuck with you. The rest is probably just that those you continually see make better subconscious targets for whatever peeves you, and melee are unavoidable in that fashion.
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  4. #34
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    Tsukino's Avatar
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    Tsukino Mahou
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Pictomancer Lv 100
    People are always going to notice and appreciate SMN and RDM when they help out with raising and/or healing, above almost all other damage jobs. It's just easier to notice when one of them saves a group from a wipe than it is to notice when MNK or SAM is doing great damage.

    I've never gotten rudeness on any damage job though. Any hate I've ever gotten has come from playing a tank - pointing mobs the right direction while never losing hate or dying just isn't enough for...an oddly large number of people I've encountered.
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    Last edited by Tsukino; 06-01-2018 at 02:58 PM.

  5. #35
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    Enla's Avatar
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    Crushing Fatigue
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukino View Post
    People are always going to notice and appreciate SMN and RDM when they help out with raising and/or healing, above almost all other damage jobs. It's just easier to notice when one of them saves a group from a wipe than it is to notice when MNK or SAM is doing great damage.
    Ironically the one incident I remember receiving hate as a DPS was when I was on raise duty as a SMN for a Garuda farm party all the way back in 2.55. Got called out for not doing enough damage because I stopped DPSing to help the /single/ healer they decided to bring raise the rest of the party as most of them had died to mechanics or simply not being healed fast enough. Apparently trying to help the raid when the boss wasn't even close to being downed was enough for someone to get testy. I remember it pretty fondly however because when the pony did drop, I was the one who rolled highest for it. The person yelling at me immediately left the party along with what I can only assume were their buddies, and I haven't stopped laughing about it even years later.

    Other than that? Not really. About the only issues I've had are with AST's insisting on Nocturnal Sect when I run as SCH, and overwriting my shields, but if they want to carry the bulk of the shields and make our lives harder I'm more than happy to spend my MP elsewhere.
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    Last edited by Enla; 06-01-2018 at 06:18 PM.

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