DPS who do 4k worth of damage = garbage tier

[Issac]

This thread makes me feel sick to my stomach...

[MageBlack]

This thread makes me feel sick to my stomach...

Any time someone asks me "Why doesnt SE have a Parser in the game" I will point to this thread. This is exactly why they dont have one and dont condone them.

[HyoMinPark]

This thread makes me feel sick to my stomach...

Any time someone asks me "Why doesnt SE have a Parser in the game" I will point to this thread. This is exactly why they dont have one and dont condone them.

And both of you are focusing on the negatives surrounding parsers and DPS rather than the posters that are advocating for improvement, or even saying that 4,000 DPS is not terrible depending on the context behind the number (type of content, gear, job, number of deaths, rotation, etc.). Too many people are blinded by their prejudices to see the other side, and I'm sorry but these two posts speak to that.

I'll just repeat my story of the SAM in TsukuEx doing 2,800 DPS against a BRD doing 5,000 with a death...and the SAM was the one berating the BRD and saying they were trash. When clearly, the numbers prove otherwise. And I feel confident in saying the SAM was not using a parser, otherwise he wouldn't have been acting like the God of DPS. But only people who parse are "toxic", right?

[Issac]

This person seems to have painted a picture of me.

[MageBlack]

And both of you are focusing on the negatives surrounding parsers and DPS rather than the posters that are advocating for improvement, or even saying that 4,000 DPS is not terrible depending on the context behind the number (type of content, gear, job, number of deaths, rotation, etc.). Too many people are blinded by their prejudices to see the other side, and I'm sorry but these two posts speak to that.

I'll just repeat my story of the SAM in TsukuEx doing 2,800 DPS against a BRD doing 5,000 with a death...and the SAM was the one berating the BRD and saying they were trash. When clearly, the numbers prove otherwise. And I feel confident in saying the SAM was not using a parser, otherwise he wouldn't have been acting like the God of DPS. But only people who parse are "toxic", right?

I'm only stating the facts. SE and Yoshi-P have officially came out and said why there are no parsers. This thread only proves his point.

Q: Can we have an official in game parser for only ourselves? Especially for PS4 players.
A: No. I 100% understand that you want to see your DPS, but then people will demand to know your DPS and there will be fights. And it would then mean someone would take the tool, and make it so you can see everyone’s. And we understand fully that people want this tool to get better themselves, but we are certain that it will lead to fighting. But we are always considering it for the future. So, during 3.X we saw the skill gap between good and bad players increase, which is why we are focusing on re-developing our battle system to close the gap. Once that happens, we will consider it. But now, it would just hurt the community. I’m not sure if I can say this, but we are working on a system that doesn’t display a number but may be a system that you can try and then try again, to make yourself better. Hmmm. It’s probably never been done on an MMO before.

From the Frankfurt FanFest 2017.

[Nemekh]

I'm only stating the facts. SE and Yoshi-P have officially came out and said why there are no parsers. This thread only proves his point.

From the Frankfurt FanFest 2017.

Stating facts, or asserting somewhat obvious bias? Also an emphasis on "Once that happens, we will consider it."

It's not a done and dusted matter. Especially given more things spoken about regarding ACT use in recent interviews.

[Sunako]

We have stone sky sea dps calculator. It show you how much you are supposed to do dps.

[Nemekh]

We have stone sky sea dps calculator. It show you how much you are supposed to do dps.

It's important to note that SSS hp values are not immediately available in game and are obtained through use of ACT and other tools. The calculator relies on this metadata.

[Asiragan]

Q: Can we have an official in game parser for only ourselves? Especially for PS4 players.
A: No. I 100% understand that you want to see your DPS, but then people will demand to know your DPS and there will be fights. And it would then mean someone would take the tool, and make it so you can see everyone’s. And we understand fully that peoplewant this tool to get better themselves, but we are certain that it will lead to fighting. But we are always considering it for the future. So, during 3.X we saw the skill gap between good and bad players increase, which is why we are focusing on re-developing our battle system to close the gap. Once that happens, we will consider it. But now, it would just hurt the community. I’m not sure if I can say this, but we are working on a system that doesn’t display a number but may be a system that you can try and then try again, to make yourself better. Hmmm. It’s probably never been done on an MMO before.

So, instead of hurting the community by showing them the hard truth with an in-game tool and by letting fight happen, it's preferable to let the community hurt herself with a third party tool and by letting rampant hypocrisy going around while the fight still happens anyway.

Seems like a coward point of view to me.


Plus, I don't think anyone on this topic actually said that everyone should be at god-tier level, that would just be stupid. But people should still aim to at least no be a burden for the other member of the party.

If the fight is cleared while a dps stayed at 3k dps the whole duration, it doesn't mean that this person did the job. It just means that the other party members were just good enough to carry a dead weight.

[Maero]

Well Stone Sky and Sea does help yes but you have no moving targets or mechanics to deal with.
Parsers do help but only way some of us can get numbers is by asking as the console crowd does not have any parsers. Which i wish someone would make an app