Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[bounddreamer]

To the tanks who face the new EX Primal to the north in the crescent moon, kudos to you. This makes it much easier for me (MNK) to handle positionals and the moon mechanic. To those who don't... please face her north and not east/west. That leaves most of her body in the 'bad zone,' which means I have to duck into the 'safe zone' for a moment to prevent Bleed/Doom/Death.

I use True North for when I can't do positionals (during massive AoE's from rocks + orbs).

It's good to hear this, I've been tanking it this way and was actually asked NOT to do that in one party. They told me to face her east/west. It seemed so incredibly wrong. Facing her north after pulling her to the small crescent has worked incredibly well for every other group and pretty much allows everyone to stand to either side as needed.

[NewAgeDoom]

Leveling Roulette last night. Got Aurum Vale. Not in and of itself an issue, but when the first pull consists of the tank trying to pull the ENTIRE room, I immediately practically merged my face with my keyboard, I head-desked THAT hard.

First boss, the DRK isn't even using Grit, so I pull off of him THROUGH DIVERSION and get one shotted. Oh well, I get raised, we down the boss, I let the tank know about the wonders of Grit.

Second Boss (Coincounter). The tank spent half the time running around the arena actively trying to kill us with the bosses' un-telegraphed attacks.

Final Boss: We spent half the time moving to avoid Bad Breath that the tank was deliberately aiming at us.

For all of that, I managed to get a healer's commend out of it for staying out of bad, so not an entire loss at least?

[kupokage]

If you're stuck in a long que, consider teleporting to a populated area. From my experience, after waiting longer than 15 minutes, the duty will que just as I'm trying to port to Rhalgr's Reach, Kugane, or a Housing District.

I've almost missed confirming the pop up (with no more than 2 seconds to spare) because it's taking forever to port in since we literally can't do anything inbetween 'porting.

[Ceridwenae]

Congrats on your clear. Hopefully hubby was able to help you with the most important/confusing mechanics. I learned awhile ago that roulettes dont care what content you have cleared, just what you have unlocked. Good luck on your eventual attempts at Ridorana, WoD, and the Mhach series - each a lot of fun in its own right... and each potentially terrifying in its own way if you arent prepared.

Hubby was awesome, and definitely helped lots, considering he hasn't done that raid all that much before. I'd give him game commends too if I could.

I do look forward to more raiding, that's for sure.

[Averax]

Raised 10 people as RDM during castrum fulmiwhatever, not one commendation. Feelsbadman

[AmemeAmeklin]

Raised 10 people as RDM during castrum fulmiwhatever, not one commendation. Feelsbadman

Have you considered using a macro that says "RED MUSKETEER TO THE RESCUE, SAVING <t> FROM DIRT NAPS ONE VERRAISE AT A VERTIME"?

[ChaoticCrimson]

Raised 10 people as RDM during castrum fulmiwhatever, not one commendation. Feelsbadman

Alternately, jumping into Ridoranna as a RDM and straining your MP reserves and keeping Lucid constantly on cd to raise people constantly and keep yourself alive (while trying to maintain damage), only to receive no comms.

[xkazh]

I think this speaks for itself.





That's 2 stacks on A in Ozma, which followed 4 meteors hitting us. Also that was Forgall's FIRST Mega Death.

Also featuring: Red Mage who died the most advertising his FC in /shout just after Forgall.
The MT tried to spin Calofisteri and failed twice, cleaving the raid. She then chased after Calofisteri did Depth Charge, and both following Haircuts cleaved the room AGAIN. And also turn the boss when she wasn't doing Haircut.

And after all that I got into Susan Normal for Trial Roulette with a Dragoon who died 3 times before we finished Phase 1.
PS This is just a weird thing - if anyone here goes into WCoM can you let me know what the chat log says when the boss arenas are sealed? Because whilst doing the above WCOM run, I noticed that the chat box appears to be getting it wrong.
Arachne Eve - Queen's room (i think)
Forgall - The Shrine of the Goetic
Ozma - The Gloriole
Calofisteri - Tomb of the Nullstone
When I did WCOM, the chat log pushed all the names 1 boss early - it said after AE went down that the Shrine was no longer sealed and that Forgall's arena was the Gloriole. I just want to check that I wasn't trippin or if it's just from latest patch mistake maybe (or just a 1 time thing idk).

EDIT: You can actually see it! In the second screenshot in my chat log, at the bottom - that screenshot was taken when Ozma died and you can just about see it there saying that the Tomb of the Nullstone isn't sealed - that's Calo's boss room, not Ozma's!

[Nestama]

It's good to hear this, I've been tanking it this way and was actually asked NOT to do that in one party. They told me to face her east/west. It seemed so incredibly wrong. Facing her north after pulling her to the small crescent has worked incredibly well for every other group and pretty much allows everyone to stand to either side as needed.

After doing a few runs of varying strats, I now think it really depends on how people handle the gun (and spear?) during the moon-stage mechanic. If people are to stack behind her for gun (MT being on the waning side of the stage, making everyone else on the dominant side), then having her face east/west is fine. If for whatever reason people are stacking in the waning side, then I feel the tank should have her face north so that people can still refresh their Moon-stacks before/while she fires her gun laser.

Anywho, last night I got three wins in the fight doing a no waymark strat (we'd have more, but people only stayed for one one-shot run and we'd go back into the partyfinder) and when replacing a tank who left after our second one-shot win, we got one who tried to enforce their cardinal waymark strat, to which the party leader denied this (as he should. He specifically said 'no waymark strat' in the party finder). People unfamiliar with the strat caused a wipe (including the new tank) and then the new tank said things like "and this is why you need waymarks. I have 14 clears brah" and then spammed 14 clears in party chat. That tank left (and was blacklisted), but the people who messed up stayed and adjusted to no waymarks and we got our last clear of the night.

Edit: Another thing that drives me nuts with this fight (again, towards tanks) is when tanks decide to tank the EX Primal in the dominant light/dark, while they stand just at the edge of the crescent. Like... okay, so I guess my DPS doesn't matter? I'll just stand in front of the boss while refreshing my moon? I shouldn't need to use True North when I technically don't need to.

Also inconsistency. It helps if I know a tank is always going to go in one direction (always 'north' or always 'south'), otherwise there's a chance I'll go the wrong way and end up twiddling my thumbs, or I wait to see which way they go and possibly risk getting Bleed because latency is a fickle mistress.

[Usho]

Been awhile since I posted in this thread,but I have a new story to tell. Buckle up kiddos.


So this happened on Sunday night before the emergency maintenance like about maybe 30mins or a hour before it started. I wanted to squeeze in a couple more roulettes before I had to log. Got on my SMN and I got into Expert Roulette, got Hell's Lid (after getting Shallow's Compass for the past 4 nights....>_>) and the run started okay, but I noticed soon after that the tank was a bit slow, I think he had a leaf, so lvl 70 newbie? Level booster? Well, there was no newbie bonus message at the start. I mean he did his job but he was a slow dude.




Anyway, we get to the first boss and the tank starts a 15 sec countdown...Now, knowing that maintenance was gonna be starting soon and I wanted to get another roulette done, I started the boss fight and the other dps and healer followed suit. The tank stood dumbfounded for a couple seconds then joined the fight. Obviously, I could tell he got his tank pride hurt cause 3 other people wanted to hurry and this done. After the fight, the tank kept on screwing up a bit, losing aggro (he was a WAR btw) and we got to the room before the second boss and he trained a group of mobs to the room and got himself killed.



So...that wasted...about 5 or so mins right there. Anyway, we get to the second boss, and AGAIN, the tank does a 15 second countdown, and again me and the other 2 guys started the fight without his slow behind. Apparently, he must have been really pissed off cause the boss arena was sealed off and he just stood there, but it didn't matter as our healer was a champ and healed me and the other dps. Halfway into the fight, the tank pops into the arena (via the new option since 4.3's launch) but by the time he popped in the fight was basically over.



So on the way to the final boss, the tank must've had a grudge against me or something cause he pulled another large group of mobs (including those seahorse lookalike mobs who use that random water spray skill) and tanked them right on top of me. I assume he did that to "teach me a lesson" by having me die so can avenge his lost pride or w/e but I wasn't having that crap and neither was the healer and the other dps. We got through it though thanks to our awesome healer (I forgot his name now ><).



We made it to the final boss and I think the tank must've finally got the message that we want to get this done fast cause he didn't countdown, he just went right into the fight. We got through the fight and he left immediately afterwards. Me and the others said our goodbyes and the instance was done and luckily I was able to get in that extra roulette just in time cause me as well as my expert roulette healer and dps made the run quicker, despite the fact that the tank was a butthurt troll the whole time.


Just really bad tank. I think the other dps was a Ninja and geez he did better at tanking than the WAR! I have this pet peeve about tanks who do these countdowns in 4 man runs. We are all rdy, we are moving, stop wasting our time and do your job. I mean 8 man and 24 man runs I can understand the countdown, but for 4 man's it's a waste of time and it's beyond annoying and my fellow pty members,excluding the tank, agreed with me, thus we got run done basically without him.


Everything worked out and we all lived happily ever after.



The End...or is it?