Stop spamming Medica I & II/diurnal Aspected Helios

[Maeka]

I think people are grossly misunderstanding my position here.

1). I am not advocating constant egregious over-healing, nor am I saying that it's fine to constantly be healing for 0s. Obviously not.
2). I am not saying that I do such a thing myself. Sometimes I throw heals where I'm over-healing by 50% or so, but meh. Sometimes I like to avoid even more wastes of time because of DPS dropping dead because they decide to eat the AoEs repeatedly. That or I just wanted a Medica 2 regen on before a damage phase.

What I *am* saying, is that it's not the end of the world if you get a healer who is nervous and is doing more overhealing than you'd like. I AM saying that a little overheal isn't THAT big of an issue.

And I'm saying the OP is perhaps jumping on a matter that's not really That big of an issue. I've yet to see a single healer that stands around and does nothing but spam heals on people who are full. I've not seen that a single time, so I wonder just how widespread this REALLY is.

@CreinCrein: Again people bringing up Savage when we're talking about Duty Finder.........

[Alaray]

And I'm saying the OP is perhaps jumping on a matter that's not really That big of an issue. I've yet to see a single healer that stands around and does nothing but spam heals on people who are full. I've not seen that a single time, so I wonder just how widespread this REALLY is.

@CreinCrein: Again people bringing up Savage when we're talking about Duty Finder.........

Then you missed the OP's point, which was less about new healers, and more about healer main players who do those things (and they do, I have encountered a number of them). It's a bit of a wash to say "it doesn't matter" because the personal contribution from a healer does matter, and players who are new to the role should try to practice it than be told by someone it's "unimportant" and then go onwards with that mindset and hinder themselves and potentially their groups -- even in normal.


And yeah, sometimes keeping a DPS up is worth it. Sometimes it's not.

I've had plenty of healers out DPS the DPS players. I'd rather the healer keep that up and get around to picking up the dead guy when they get the chance to (or for a RDM to raise them, or a SMN). There are also plenty of tanks who pull more damage contribution than the DPS do, especially in DF/PF settings.

I'm not a good healer. I have a lot of bad habits on the class because I don't tend to main them, but I know plenty of people who main heal and are legitimately fantastic players in their own right. But, at the end of the day, even if you're talking about a new player who wants to improve, they should be given the tool to improve and not a "uh it's not important just spam medica."

And from some replies in this thread, there are a lot of people who think overhealing and doing nothing else is absolutely optimal when it's not in this game. If it didn't matter, or was negligible at best, the thread probably wouldn't exist.

( However, in Savage content and EX content which, I know this isn't primarily about, healer damage output matters a *lot* more and can be the difference between Enrage or not. Practice is built through the content that came before, one doesn't step into Savage and immediately change the playstyle they think is correct... thus, bad habits born from DF come into play).